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Dynamix
Junior Member

Germany
205 Posts

Posted - 30 June 2003 :  20:08:55  Show Profile
No answer is also an answer!<
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OneWayMule
Dev. Team Member & Support Moderator

Austria
4969 Posts

Posted - 30 June 2003 :  20:33:49  Show Profile  Visit OneWayMule's Homepage  Send OneWayMule an ICQ Message
Do a search, you'll find the answers in the forums here..<

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Dynamix
Junior Member

Germany
205 Posts

Posted - 30 June 2003 :  21:56:48  Show Profile
The Answer is always the same: It will be released when all bugs are found, a little bit more features, a little bit more internationalisation...
And thats over months...

What I meant is a status-bar like bozdens. It would be nice to have an answer like: "we are sure in the next 4 weeks" or "we are sure NOT in the next 4 weeks".

Iīm only asking if itīs worth to wait or to start an own translations. Thatīs it!<
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Nikkol
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USA
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Posted - 30 June 2003 :  22:10:31  Show Profile
Dynamix, what OWM meant is that if you search you will see what has happened to Internationalization since bozden's leaving. To my knowledge, there is no one working on it right now. So, I for one feel pretty confident that you won't see a "version 4" in the next few weeks.

And if you did browse or search through the forums, you would see that "the answer is always the same" is an unfair statement. If you read through the posts, you'd come to the same conclusion that I did in my first paragraph.<

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Rasco
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Germany
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Posted - 01 July 2003 :  12:12:57  Show Profile  Send Rasco an ICQ Message
quote:
Originally posted by Nikkol


And if you did browse or search through the forums, you would see that "the answer is always the same" is an unfair statement. If you read through the posts, you'd come to the same conclusion that I did in my first paragraph.



I have read most of the answers to similar questions like the one above. And reading them could easily get you to result, that there want be an internationalized version.
But maybe I have misread something and that is what I hope. <

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Dynamix
Junior Member

Germany
205 Posts

Posted - 01 July 2003 :  15:15:12  Show Profile
I am sure that there will NEVER be a internationalized version. I do not know why, but I think that some people here would not like to release such a version. There are many reasons which I could imagine, but thatīs not important.

Only one thing is important: an official answer of an official part of the developement team and I can not understand why they do not anser to this questions...<
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ruirib
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Portugal
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Posted - 01 July 2003 :  17:03:12  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
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Romee
Junior Member

Netherlands
180 Posts

Posted - 01 July 2003 :  17:26:19  Show Profile
The internationalization workgroup is close to releasing a betaversion. Bozden is finishing his job at this moment. We are using the domain http://www.forumpagina.com for alfatesting. As soon as the betaversion is ready we shall make a public forum there for testing and discussions. At this moment you can download older versions of the internationalizationproject there.
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Dynamix
Junior Member

Germany
205 Posts

Posted - 01 July 2003 :  21:30:54  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by ruirib

If you are sure, why even bother to ask the question?


If you donīt like such questions, why donīt you read other topics?<
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin

Portugal
26364 Posts

Posted - 01 July 2003 :  22:12:15  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
It's not that I like it or not, it's the fact that these posts are just meant to annoy those who provide people like you with such software for free, and you still feel you're entitled to say what you please.

But you're right about one thing: I should not worry about reading posts like these. Oh well, finally you got one right.<


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OneWayMule
Dev. Team Member & Support Moderator

Austria
4969 Posts

Posted - 01 July 2003 :  22:46:56  Show Profile  Visit OneWayMule's Homepage  Send OneWayMule an ICQ Message
quote:
I am sure that there will NEVER be a internationalized version. I do not know why, but I think that some people here would not like to release such a version. There are many reasons which I could imagine, but thatīs not important.

By saying "I am sure that there will NEVER be a internationalized version." you state that you're either up for no kind of debate, i.e. that you are 100% right, and that anybody who argues to the contrary is immediately wrong, or you tried the offensive method to get a official answer.
I think statements like this are very counterproductive.
I've never heard any of the DEV Team members (I think you meant them by some people) say something like this. We will surely read news about it when they know more.

quote:
Only one thing is important: an official answer of an official part of the developement team and I can not understand why they do not anser to this questions...

They don't have to, and probably don't have fixed plans/release dates yet. And all your questions above have already been answered, again: do a search.

quote:
quote:
Originally posted by ruirib

If you are sure, why even bother to ask the question?


If you donīt like such questions, why donīt you read other topics?


rui tried to help, as always. Not only the quantity (more than 13k posts) but especially the quality of his help here should allow him to read whatever posts he wants. And he probably read this topic in order to help. BTW - I felt like posting the same when reading your negative comments, sorry.


In your case, I would use one of the international version that are always available, there'll be a possibility to upgrade once v4 is out I'm sure.<

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shirdisaibaba
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Posted - 25 July 2006 :  07:28:06  Show Profile  Visit shirdisaibaba's Homepage
Hello All

Any update on same? When version 4 will be released?

Any help on Hindi unicode will be highly appriciated.

Thanks in advance

Ravi<
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TSAloha
Junior Member

USA
151 Posts

Posted - 18 October 2006 :  14:06:01  Show Profile
Revisiting and observing discussions/conversations on international version (V4) since end 2002... was a way for 3 years (was involved in the totally different world)...
Am checking where it is:
Is "released" (unofficial) V4 still V4b03? (not supported as is per related forum topics.

I looked at both the current version and Image's "internaitonal" version, and still appreciate what the former international moderator did in designing and separating source codes (Snitz codes) and resource files (a la language packs)for V4. With due respect for Image's mod, a resource file (language pack) is hardcoded into the source files, which personally I don't think is a way to go.

Am looking for a hosting service to re-load the previous V4b03 multilingual site if possible... for totally free hosting services. I looked at ASP Free Hosting forum and checked some of them but not sure which one is the best one...

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TSAloha
Junior Member

USA
151 Posts

Posted - 18 October 2006 :  14:11:51  Show Profile

Hello,

If you can download V4b03 from SourceForge and get the source language file (English) and format the forum to handle UTF8. Translate the language pack into Hindu, then, you will have Sniz V4 Hindu forum....

Reading through internaitonal version topics - most of them are nearly 3 years old - it seems the above is one best possibility.

Although Image's international forum may be another good alternative, it will be harder to handle texts/messages unless it is "localized" rather than "internationalized"... as most of text strings/messages are imbeded into source file ...

Just a guess.



quote:
Originally posted by shirdisaibaba

Hello All

Any update on same? When version 4 will be released?

Any help on Hindi unicode will be highly appriciated.

Thanks in advance

Ravi

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AnonJr
Moderator

United States
5768 Posts

Posted - 18 October 2006 :  15:32:09  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
I've seen some steps floating around here that describe how to allow for UTF-8 support. I'm not sure, but I think Image may have already added it to his multi-language forum.

Which brings me to my next point. I'm not sure I understand where the problem with Image's Internationalized forum is...

Last I checked, he put the UI text in the language packs - keeping it separate from the code - thus allowing you to use one or more different languages without having to modify the code. Same as what you want to do with the v4 code, except Image's code has been kept up to date with all the security features and bug fixes that are in the current 3.4.06 release.

Maybe you could clarify what the problem is with Image's code?<
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