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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20595 Posts

Posted - 04 July 2002 :  03:43:56  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
Why do we bog down our server and hinder its performance by keeping 100's of thousands of posts in an archive when nobody bothers to use it.

RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin

USA
16655 Posts

Posted - 04 July 2002 :  04:05:56  Show Profile
don't really know. I was never in favor of the archive feature.
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20595 Posts

Posted - 04 July 2002 :  04:20:56  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
it would be a useful feature if people used it,but since they don't it is a bit pointless 65% of your db being taken up by information nobody ever looks at.

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Kat
Advanced Member

United Kingdom
3065 Posts

Posted - 04 July 2002 :  04:43:26  Show Profile  Visit Kat's Homepage
I search the archive. Admittidly not often but I do. I must be one of the minority I guess.

KatsKorner

Installation Help | Snitz Mods | Forum Hosting
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Roland
Advanced Member

Netherlands
9335 Posts

Posted - 04 July 2002 :  04:43:52  Show Profile
Does that mean you're going to remove the archived posts and thereby lose a lot of posts to which a lot of us do refer? I mean, why not remove posts that are older than a specific date? That way the more recent topics will still be available and the database will get smaller, which should make searching more effective and faster.

Roland

http://www.frutzle.com

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masterao
Senior Member

Sweden
1678 Posts

Posted - 04 July 2002 :  04:48:17  Show Profile  Visit masterao's Homepage
I rarely browse through the archives, but it happens. If Im searching for a specific topic and I cannot find it in the open forums, I'll search the archives.

I find the archives a good way keep old info around. However, if that info is out-of-date, it is only taking up space.

The only way to make use of the archive is to tell people to look/search in the archives, as it is a lot simpler to ask for help .I know a support forum were you get your *ss flamed if you ask for something which already have been answered. Something which never happens here.



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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20595 Posts

Posted - 04 July 2002 :  05:29:57  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
quote:

The only way to make use of the archive is to tell people to look/search in the archives, as it is a lot simpler to ask for help .I know a support forum were you get your *ss flamed if you ask for something which already have been answered. Something which never happens here.



Well, that doesn't work either, we are constantly telling people to use the search, but people just don't, it accounts for only about 0.5% of the pages viewed, so is not being used, except possibly by the half dozen people who have posted here.

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Rasco
Advanced Member

Germany
3192 Posts

Posted - 04 July 2002 :  06:36:13  Show Profile  Send Rasco an ICQ Message
I`am using the archives, too. It`s a good resource to find some answers.
But I think, that normals users don`t bother to use it or use the search at all, cause it is easier to ask that question in the forums again. Normal process in the web.

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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin

Portugal
26364 Posts

Posted - 04 July 2002 :  07:06:18  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
I think the acrhive feature is useful. As others have posted, I search there when I'm looking for something that I cannot find on the live posts. Doesn't happen too often, but when I need the archive is invaluable. I'd also like to point out that many, many bug fixes are archived and they have not seen their way to the current code, so without archive, you'd just lose them...

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Nikkol
Forum Moderator

USA
6907 Posts

Posted - 04 July 2002 :  10:18:44  Show Profile
I half agree and disagree. There are quite a few archived posts with fixes in them that are still useful, but on the whole most of the archive is not used. What would be nice (but would be a major undertaking) is to solicit the most common archived topics that help people refer to and then create some FAQs about those topics. The archives could then be deleted.

Nikkol

Edited by - Nikkol on 04 July 2002 10:19:10
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Aaron S.
Average Member

USA
985 Posts

Posted - 04 July 2002 :  10:55:37  Show Profile  Visit Aaron S.'s Homepage
I agree with Nikkol.

There are two dozen or so archived topics that should be easily accessible to people on this forum.

I don't use search that much because it is very hard to find what I am looking for - combining the right keyword, the right forum, etc. (and not being too general or the page will timeout)

I have often thought that a forum with sticky links to frequently asked questions (like Hot Topic, Hide Email, etc.) could reduce postings to this forum drastically.

If you put a link to 1 answer to Hot Topic then you can delete the other 1,000 or so answering the same question.

--Aaron





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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20595 Posts

Posted - 04 July 2002 :  14:28:01  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
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I don't use search that much because it is very hard to find what I am looking for - combining the right keyword, the right forum, etc. (and not being too general or the page will timeout)



You could always try the new search engine I posted, it won't time out regardless of what you search for.

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@tomic
Senior Member

USA
1790 Posts

Posted - 04 July 2002 :  14:45:29  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage  Send @tomic an ICQ Message
I am not sure I would ever use the archive feature on a forum I run but I would hate to see some of the older posts, especially in the MOD forums, go away. They are an excellent resource. However there are certainly a lot of posts that don't need to be saved. I trim the fat occassionally.

@tomic

http://www.skepticfriends.org
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Roland
Advanced Member

Netherlands
9335 Posts

Posted - 04 July 2002 :  14:49:21  Show Profile
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You could always try the new search engine I posted, it won't time out regardless of what you search for.



I must've missed that post then... Could you give the URL again?

Roland

http://www.frutzle.com

Snitz Exchange | Do's and Dont's
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20595 Posts

Posted - 04 July 2002 :  15:10:28  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
http://forum.snitz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=29541

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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin

USA
16655 Posts

Posted - 04 July 2002 :  16:25:16  Show Profile
I added a link to it next to the other Search Link.
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