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inguin
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Germany
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Posted - 11 July 2002 :  08:06:03  Show Profile  Visit inguin's Homepage
Hi there!

I'm not a webmaster but rather a user of a website providing a Snitz forum. Anyway, I think there is a harmless but annoying bug in your otherwise fine software:
My favourite browser (Opera) doesn't show any tooltips for navigation images (like icon_reply_topic.gif). This is because you are providing an alt-tag, but not a title-tag. According to the W3C guidelines, alt is supposed to be displayed if images are disabled while title is supposed to be used for pop-ups. Opera works according to the guidelines and displays a tooltip only if there's a title. The fact that IE uses alt-tags for tooltips is recognized to be a bug.
As far as I know newer versions of Internet Explorer and Mozilla behave correctly. I don't have Windows, so I can't validate that.

Cheers,
Ingo

HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 July 2002 :  08:37:52  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
for this to be a bug, you must first assume that we are using the at tags to display pop-ups rather than denote a place-holder.

So, which are we using it for?

obviously so it is not a bug, I will say we use the alt tag to debote a missing image as intended. It's not our fault if the browser than decides to display it as a tooltip

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Posted - 11 July 2002 :  10:40:54  Show Profile
It is more a design discussion than a bug. But v3.3.x does not use the title tag as v3.4 will do .


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RichardKinser
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USA
16655 Posts

Posted - 11 July 2002 :  13:05:25  Show Profile
And in v3.4 it only requires editing 1 line of code to add a title= attribute to all images shown in the forum. I've added it and it works in all of the alternative browsers I have tried (Opera, Mozilla, Netscape).
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inguin
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Germany
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Posted - 11 July 2002 :  13:35:39  Show Profile  Visit inguin's Homepage
quote:

for this to be a bug, you must first assume that we are using the at tags to display pop-ups rather than denote a place-holder.

So, which are we using it for?



Well, the images alone aren't very self-explanatory to unexperienced users. In my beginning phase reading the tooltips (back then I was using Netscape) was the only way for me to learn the meaning of these images, so I thought they were meant to be displayed.
Anyway, if the next version is going to use title-tags, this discussion seems to be redundant.

Cheers,
Ingo


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