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CalloftheHauntedMaster
Junior Member

289 Posts

Posted - 27 March 2007 :  16:42:06  Show Profile
The word filter for snitz forums is ridiculously easy to bypass. My members have clearly demonstrated that.

The problem is that I can't just start banning everyone who bypasses the filter because it's honestly not the biggest crime. However, it is offensive to many members.

Take the word 'crap', they can bypass that with any number of combinations, or they can simply use tags and the word won't be affected.

Does anyone have any ideas for a smarter filter system?

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AnonJr
Moderator

United States
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Posted - 27 March 2007 :  17:07:56  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
Unfortunately its just not that easy to filter text period. (outside of having some good, quality moderators) Any system you can come up with can be bypassed with unfortunate ease, and will produce wide and varied unintended consequences...
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ruirib
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Portugal
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Posted - 27 March 2007 :  17:11:15  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
The only real option is to punish everyone who willingly circumvents the filter.


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CalloftheHauntedMaster
Junior Member

289 Posts

Posted - 27 March 2007 :  17:15:47  Show Profile
Yeah, I realize that. But still, there's got to be some way of improving the system. Take a word like 'crap'. People can change it to cr!p, c!rap, c-rap, crap, crap, and etc.

An idea I had was to rewrite the filter so that you could select the number of characters the word was. In my example, it would be 4. Then you'd select the first and last letter of the word. Generally speaking, if someone bypasses the filter by say brap or crad, the word ceases to make sense, and the point of filtering still works.

Anyhow, realistically, there aren't that many words that are a certain character length, and start and end with the designated letters.

Perhaps a few that will very rarely actually come up.

This system eliminates the bypassing because it reads the first and last letters and then checks the character length. If the word matches on all three parameters, odds are it should be filtered.

Lastly, the could should be able to exclude anything within tags such as [u] or [b].

Any ideas on where to start with writing this or the complexity?

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JJenson
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USA
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Posted - 27 March 2007 :  17:21:53  Show Profile  Visit JJenson's Homepage
wouldn't your system break by someone typing ccrraapp? Or did I misunderstand how yours would work?
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ruirib
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Portugal
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Posted - 27 March 2007 :  17:21:57  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
Frankly that is way more hard to do then discipline the members...


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CalloftheHauntedMaster
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Posted - 27 March 2007 :  17:49:05  Show Profile
Yes, typing an extended word would bypass the system, but it's the best idea I have at the moment.

rui, I realize it'd be complicated, but what kind of level of complexity are we talking about here?

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ruirib
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Portugal
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Posted - 27 March 2007 :  18:17:37  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
You'd need a way to specify the variable characters, which would mean a notation to do that and a parser to go along.


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CalloftheHauntedMaster
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Posted - 27 March 2007 :  18:47:29  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by ruirib

You'd need a way to specify the variable characters, which would mean a notation to do that and a parser to go along.




You forget that I'm not very familiar with the specifics of writing this kind of code

I was thinking of a drop down menu for all three. A menu of letters A-Z for the start and end characters and a list of 3 to 10 total characters in the world.

Do you think you code throw together a beta code for this?

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ruirib
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Portugal
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Posted - 27 March 2007 :  18:49:54  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
Sorry, not a candidate for that...


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CalloftheHauntedMaster
Junior Member

289 Posts

Posted - 27 March 2007 :  19:07:02  Show Profile
Anyone else care to accept the challenge?

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MaD2ko0l
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 March 2007 :  19:21:05  Show Profile  Visit MaD2ko0l's Homepage
maybe u need to change the topic of the website that u host...instead of the child card games or whatever the site is about maybe u need to chose a topic that is more mature so that u donot get this kind of childish behavouir

or maybe u need to get many more moderators to check the forums for this kind of bad words, or maybe ignore it completly and let the users run wild

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CalloftheHauntedMaster
Junior Member

289 Posts

Posted - 27 March 2007 :  19:44:28  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by MaD2ko0l

maybe u need to change the topic of the website that u host...instead of the child card games or whatever the site is about maybe u need to chose a topic that is more mature so that u donot get this kind of childish behavouir

or maybe u need to get many more moderators to check the forums for this kind of bad words, or maybe ignore it completly and let the users run wild




I don't own the site. I admin it for the company that owns it. Besides, the name reflects the site itself, which is a gaming site. It's always been that way.

Anyhow, I'm asking for help with the code, not suggestions about changing the site itself.

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JJenson
Advanced Member

USA
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Posted - 27 March 2007 :  20:07:18  Show Profile  Visit JJenson's Homepage
I am going to take a guess that you are not going to get a coder on something like this. For that fact that Rui stated its more trouble than its worth when you can just have moderators and or punish the people who do this. But maybe someone will just am guessing no one will on this one
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CalloftheHauntedMaster
Junior Member

289 Posts

Posted - 27 March 2007 :  20:09:37  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by JJenson

I am going to take a guess that you are not going to get a coder on something like this. For that fact that Rui stated its more trouble than its worth when you can just have moderators and or punish the people who do this. But maybe someone will just am guessing no one will on this one



Well, I actually am considering a coder for this issue (are you offering?). I'm hoping to get the owners to fork over the cash for the expenses.

It's troublesome, true, but it's a serious problem.

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Edited by - CalloftheHauntedMaster on 27 March 2007 20:09:51
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JJenson
Advanced Member

USA
2121 Posts

Posted - 27 March 2007 :  20:13:21  Show Profile  Visit JJenson's Homepage
Sorry not offering this one would be over my head I have not dealt in anyway with the bad word filter. No offense just not a big problem on my end. Someone uses it they are warned if again they are gone. Harsh but gets the point accross.
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