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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20550 Posts

Posted - 13 December 2006 :  18:52:35  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
3) when the web server sends you a file (image or whatever) your browser first checks for the existence of this file in your browsers cache before deciding whether to fetch it from the server, when you provide this file as a stream from a db your browser can not check for it's existence in the browser cache because every time it is streamed to you it is given a unique name therefore when it checks to see if the file already exists it thinks it doesn't even if you have already downloaded it before, and the web server is forced to send it to you again, that is why files are better in terms of web based applications.

Forum: An online discussion group, where participants with common interests can exchange open messages.

By definition this means it is always going to be text focused, for it not to be would make it something other than a forum. forums are all about written language, pictures went out of fashion as a form of communication when we discovered language and how to write.
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wildfiction
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Posted - 18 December 2006 :  20:54:24  Show Profile  Visit wildfiction's Homepage
Forgive me for threadjacking this back to the topic subject: ASP.NET conversion.

I think that the most important thing at this point is to convert the forum as it is in ASP to ASP.NET and directly reproduce the forum software in this format such that only the code base and not the data base need to be changed, as stage one.

Subsequent to that, upgrades to the .NET version and mods to this version can cater for the discussion that is now happening.
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skwayb
Starting Member

17 Posts

Posted - 27 January 2007 :  00:31:15  Show Profile
HuwR how is the test site coming along? Hope work hasn't overwhelmed you too much. Thanks again for all your hard work.
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20550 Posts

Posted - 27 January 2007 :  06:09:30  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
It has gone very well, seem to have ironed out most of the initial bugs in the interface, so I am now working on the admin stuff plus a few minor tweaks to improve performance a little
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RArch
Junior Member

United Kingdom
103 Posts

Posted - 27 January 2007 :  08:22:58  Show Profile
I've got to say well done HuwR I'm really looking forward to getting stuck in to learning something about .net and what you've done is fantastic. Thanks very much

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kentk
Starting Member

USA
30 Posts

Posted - 12 February 2007 :  22:52:21  Show Profile
Well it's good to see that the project did not die. I have been busy at work, so I have not had a chance to look at the project since July. HuwR, I'm glad to see one of the orginal developers of Snitz take the lead. If you need another beta tester or coder I'll help out as much as I can.

Kent

Kent

"Wakey, wakey, hands off snakey!"
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jacob_bb
Starting Member

1 Posts

Posted - 29 March 2007 :  11:24:37  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Ghostnetworks

It may not be possible to convert Snitz into ASP.Net.
The only thing you'll be able to keep from the ASP version is the database.

The structue and layout of the code in Snitz is so different (even compared to other ASP apps) it will just be easier to write the whole thing from scratch.
This way, the user can just change the connection string in the web.config file and keep all the old data intact.



I agree, it would make more sense to rewrite. ASP and ASP.NET are just too different. However, it is not really necessary to even keep the database.

The Snitz forum I was running was looking kind of old school, so I've decided to start an open source asp.net forum. After setting up a schema, the first thing I did was write an importer for the users/forums/posts so my members will just be able to transfer over. It only took a day and in the end it will be the easiest thing to do for the whole project.
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balexandre
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Denmark
418 Posts

Posted - 24 April 2007 :  13:20:01  Show Profile  Visit balexandre's Homepage  Send balexandre an ICQ Message
quote:
Originally posted by HuwR

why do .net programmers have this big thing about stored procedures, they are a total pain in the arse, offer very little if any benefit at all, and mean that most novice programmers have no idea what is going on, so I would suggest sticking to inline SQL it is much easier to edit, and will work on all DB platforms without any change



LOL x 100000000

you CAN'T be a Database developer! unless you would never say such lie!

Bruno Alexandre
(Strøby, DANMARK)

"a Portuguese in Danmark"


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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 April 2007 :  14:32:10  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by balexandre

quote:
Originally posted by HuwR

why do .net programmers have this big thing about stored procedures, they are a total pain in the arse, offer very little if any benefit at all, and mean that most novice programmers have no idea what is going on, so I would suggest sticking to inline SQL it is much easier to edit, and will work on all DB platforms without any change



LOL x 100000000

you CAN'T be a Database developer! unless you would never say such lie!


ok smart arse, which bit do you think is a lie ?
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin

Portugal
26364 Posts

Posted - 24 April 2007 :  16:05:00  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by balexandre

quote:
Originally posted by HuwR

why do .net programmers have this big thing about stored procedures, they are a total pain in the arse, offer very little if any benefit at all, and mean that most novice programmers have no idea what is going on, so I would suggest sticking to inline SQL it is much easier to edit, and will work on all DB platforms without any change



LOL x 100000000

you CAN'T be a Database developer! unless you would never say such lie!


Of course, you must then be a database developer... on a single platform db and a with a very scant idea of dealing with a frontend designed to work with multiple Dbs...
Do share that valuable, insightful,knowledge, you portuguese in Kobenhavn...


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Wholsea
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21 Posts

Posted - 15 May 2007 :  21:59:30  Show Profile  Visit Wholsea's Homepage  Send Wholsea an AOL message
Any update on when we may see Snitz.NET?
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Hermes
Junior Member

Croatia
113 Posts

Posted - 05 June 2007 :  07:57:38  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by HuwR

I am currently working on a .Net 2.0 port of the Snitz base code, I have almost finished the user interface part and membership functionality, hopefully I will be starting on the admin part of it shortly. Once the basic functionality is in place I will be looking for some beta testers, but can not give any time scale that that will be.


erm.
I wonder, is it possible to create lang file for this new version?
I noticed that many people are interested in this.

ASP Snitz Forum Upute za instalaciju
http://www.kairos.com.hr http://www.hermetizam.com Forum

not so newbie any more :)
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Shaggy
Support Moderator

Ireland
6780 Posts

Posted - 05 June 2007 :  08:00:53  Show Profile
Huw's Snitz.Net will have mutilingual support.


Search is your friend
“I was having a mildly paranoid day, mostly due to the
fact that the mad priest lady from over the river had
taken to nailing weasels to my front door again.”
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Hermes
Junior Member

Croatia
113 Posts

Posted - 05 June 2007 :  09:51:46  Show Profile

Great!



ASP Snitz Forum Upute za instalaciju
http://www.kairos.com.hr http://www.hermetizam.com Forum

not so newbie any more :)
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dcohn
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98 Posts

Posted - 09 June 2007 :  01:16:52  Show Profile  Visit dcohn's Homepage
I just read this thread and I just have to comment.

I am NOT a developer. I am a Network Engineer.

The statement about Blobs in the database. Currently Snitz support Access, MySQL and MSSQL. Assuming Blogs in the DB are a good idea (assuming for a second) wouldn't it be a total pia just making sure that works in the two flavors of SQL?

Even if not when you have to deal with images on any level of quantity do you really want then inaccessible. Lets say for example you were using an image engine to display them so you could size them on the fly. I am wondering from a programming perspective how that would be done using blobs versus simple file system. Further more IIS 6.0 is able to cache images that get reloaded such as a single client with a gallery that is viewing it over and over again. Again I am not a programmer but I know it won't work wit many image servers if they are in a database. And just to manage the image content would be a *** as well. How would you scour it to remove porn. Hey like I said this may all be meaningless stuff but I manage millions of images and I cannot even begin to imagine having them in a database especially since we must expire images all the time, dynamically create thumbs from a HIRES etc etc etc. And how do you cut up the database. We create Galleries with up to 100 subdirs and each subdir has 1000 user dirs which store images. We limit a gallery to 100 gig. How do you do that with a database. And then compact it properly and defrag it. And you want to add videos as well.

As to the stored procedure issue. Yes building a web application you should always use stored procedures for security reasons I read. But this is a forum that must be modified by others and accessible in multiple databases. How can you use sp's cleanly and support novice users. Or screw those users (like me when it comes to programming). Would the same SP work for access, MsSQL and Mysql?

Respect is just friggin gone these days. HuwR has semi retired next to his name. I for one prefer he hangs around a bit longer. Ya treat people nice and they will always be more apt to return the treatment.

I would love to see Snitz get a new lease on Life.

Edited by - dcohn on 09 June 2007 01:20:38
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