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Jason G
Starting Member
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 Posted - 21 December 2004 : 12:24:43
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Originally posted by Gremlin
Did you take the <br> tags out again ? I don't see them in the source code at all.
The font tags may not be as minor as you think, they could easily be causing browsers not to render the page correctly, and may well be why the things we're suggesting aren't working (becuase the really should).
You could also try adding a margin to the body tag too, but I'd fix those font tags up first and then try the earlier suggestions again.
I found the font tags in inc_top.asp and I removed them. However, my problem still persists.
I've added all of the <br/> tags that have been suggested, but they have not moved anything down. The only things that have worked are:
1. Adding some white space to the top of my graphic
2. Adding a <br> in my title in the Admin panel
Can anyone suggest a better fix?
Thanks in advance,
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My Snitz Forum: http://forum.jcsm.org
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Jason G
Starting Member
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 21 December 2004 : 12:26:12
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Originally posted by PeeWee.Inc
I was looking at the site for more then half hour, couldnt see what you was talking about. I had a little think then closed FireFox, opened IE and looked with that.
All looks fine here in IE tho.
Really, you should code websites for all browsers 
Hi PeeWee,
Thanks for checking out my site.
I'm glad things look fine. I'm sorry they don't look good with FireFox. However, the vast majority of people use IE (e.g. over 95%), so we can't be too concerned with other browsers.
Sincerely,
Jason |
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PeeWee.Inc
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1893 Posts |
Posted - 21 December 2004 : 14:15:06
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More and more people are moving over to better (less buggy) browsers every day. So, to save work and time later on down the line, code for FireFox and then see if it looks good in IE after.
As i said, IE is very buggy and people are moving away from it day by day. |
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Jason G
Starting Member
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 21 December 2004 : 15:21:38
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PeeWee,
Is there a free program that I can download in order to test my site across different browsers? I can't download lots of browsers, especially when over 95% of people use IE.
Do you have any statistics that prove people are leaving IE in great numbers because it's buggy?
At any rate, I still need some help with this Snitz Forum.
Sincerely,
Jason |
My Snitz Forum: http://forum.jcsm.org
My phpbb: http://inerrancy.com |
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muzishun
Senior Member
United States
1079 Posts |
Posted - 21 December 2004 : 17:48:12
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| Out of curiosity, who did the install of this forum? Do you know what MODs are installed? Just looking at those couple lines from inc_header.asp I can tell that you have the Site Integration MOD at the very least. The problem doesn't seem to be in the forum itself. When you have a heavily modded forum, it's near-impossible to give you accurate line numbers. Do you have an FTP user/pass that you can give to someone here so they can try and help you that way? |
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
7528 Posts |
Posted - 21 December 2004 : 17:56:18
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| I still don't see any <br> tags after the body tag, I know you say it doesn't work, but if you want some help from us you really need to leave them in so we can see for ourselves and experiement with the source code till it seems to work. In fact thats personally what I'd do. Just save the source as a pure HTML file, play around with it until you get what you want and then just make those changes (most likely to inc_header.asp) to the .asp code. |
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Jason G
Starting Member
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 21 December 2004 : 20:12:09
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Originally posted by Gremlin
I still don't see any <br> tags after the body tag, I know you say it doesn't work, but if you want some help from us you really need to leave them in so we can see for ourselves and experiement with the source code till it seems to work. In fact thats personally what I'd do. Just save the source as a pure HTML file, play around with it until you get what you want and then just make those changes (most likely to inc_header.asp) to the .asp code.
The br tags have remained around line 95 and 278. I have not removed them.
Sincerely,
Jason |
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Jason G
Starting Member
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 21 December 2004 : 20:13:41
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Originally posted by muzishun
Out of curiosity, who did the install of this forum? Do you know what MODs are installed? Just looking at those couple lines from inc_header.asp I can tell that you have the Site Integration MOD at the very least. The problem doesn't seem to be in the forum itself. When you have a heavily modded forum, it's near-impossible to give you accurate line numbers. Do you have an FTP user/pass that you can give to someone here so they can try and help you that way?
I didn't install this forum. It was installed a long time ago and I moved it to another domain name. It's obviously only an archive, now.
I don't know which MODs are installed. I wouldn't call it heavily modded. I'd call my phpbb heavily modded.
I'm very hesitant regarding letting someone else mess with these files. I know some people want to help and I'm very appreciative. However, I suspect that people can help me just as much in the forum than in my files.
Sincerely,
Jason |
My Snitz Forum: http://forum.jcsm.org
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Jason G
Starting Member
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 21 December 2004 : 20:15:39
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I took the br tag out of the title, so you can see how the text runs into the navigation bar. It isn't pretty.
I'm surprised that nobody has wanted to move their forum down a bit. Or maybe I'm assuming too much. Maybe these suggestions I've received aren't working for some odd reason, but they work for others. Who knows.
No really . . . who knows?
Sincerely,
Jason |
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
7528 Posts |
Posted - 22 December 2004 : 06:54:23
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There are no <BR> tags after the body statement Jason, heres the source code straight from your site. Are you sure your editing the right files etc ?
</head>
<body bgColor="white" text="black" link="blue" aLink="red" vLink="red">
<a name="top"></a><font face="Arial">
<table align="center" border="0" cellPadding="0" cellSpacing="0" width="100%">
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Jason G
Starting Member
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 22 December 2004 : 12:27:06
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Gremlin,
I'm not going to find
body bgColor="white" text="black" link="blue" aLink="red" vLink="red">
in any of my files. That line has called up the different attributes from the site based on my configuration. In other words, that line isn't in inc_header.asp or any other of my files. I suppose it's like php a little where it grabs different things from different files.
Here is the inc_header.asp file. You'll see the br tags.
Response.Write "</head>" & vbNewLine & _
"<body" & strTmpPageBGImageURL & " bgColor=""" & strPageBGColor & """ text=""" & strDefaultFontColor & """ link=""" & strLinkColor & """ aLink=""" & strActiveLinkColor & """ vLink=""" & strVisitedLinkColor & """>" & vbNewLine & _
"<br/><table border=""0"" cellspacing=""0"" cellpadding=""5"" width=""50%"" height=""40%"" align=""center"">" & vbNewLine & _
" <tr>" & vbNewLine & _ |
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Jason G
Starting Member
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 22 December 2004 : 12:32:54
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Here is my other code:
"<body" & strTmpPageBGImageURL & " bgColor=""" & strPageBGColor & """ text=""" & strDefaultFontColor & """ link=""" & strLinkColor & """ aLink=""" & strActiveLinkColor & """ vLink=""" & strVisitedLinkColor & """>" & vbNewLine & _
"<a name=""top""></a>" & vbNewLine & _
vbNewLine & _
"<br /><br />" & vbNewLine & _
And just to keep it consistent, I changed the top one to this:
"<body" & strTmpPageBGImageURL & " bgColor=""" & strPageBGColor & """ text=""" & strDefaultFontColor & """ link=""" & strLinkColor & """ aLink=""" & strActiveLinkColor & """ vLink=""" & strVisitedLinkColor & """>" & vbNewLine & _
"<br /><br />" & vbNewLine & _ |
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PeeWee.Inc
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1893 Posts |
Posted - 22 December 2004 : 12:33:45
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| tey and use the [code] tags |
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Jason G
Starting Member
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 22 December 2004 : 13:06:18
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"<body" & strTmpPageBGImageURL & " bgColor=""" & strPageBGColor & """ text=""" & strDefaultFontColor & """ link=""" & strLinkColor & """ aLink=""" & strActiveLinkColor & """ vLink=""" & strVisitedLinkColor & """>" & vbNewLine & _
"<a name=""top""></a>" & vbNewLine & _
vbNewLine & _
"<br /><br />" & vbNewLine & _
And just to keep it consistent, I changed the top one to this:
"<body" & strTmpPageBGImageURL & " bgColor=""" & strPageBGColor & """ text=""" & strDefaultFontColor & """ link=""" & strLinkColor & """ aLink=""" & strActiveLinkColor & """ vLink=""" & strVisitedLinkColor & """>" & vbNewLine & _
"<br /><br />" & vbNewLine & _ |
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
7528 Posts |
Posted - 22 December 2004 : 20:04:03
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No your not going to find that exact code becuase thats already been parsed.
Take a closer look at this
<body bgColor="white" text="black" link="blue" aLink="red" vLink="red">
And the code in inc_header.asp
"<body" & strTmpPageBGImageURL & " bgColor=""" & strPageBGColor & """ text=""" & strDefaultFontColor & """ link=""" & strLinkColor & """ aLink=""" & strActiveLinkColor & """ vLink=""" & strVisitedLinkColor & """>" & vbNewLine & _
When that ASP code has executed and populated all the variables, it will look exactly like the HTML you see in the source of your site. Now clearly for some reason thats not showing the <br/> tags you've coded so honestly I would say you either have the server tossing out a cached copy of inc_header.asp (this is fairly unlikely) or you've not uploaded it to the server correctly becuase otherwise your two <br/> tags would be showing up in the source code when viewed and your source code would instead look something like this
<body bgColor="white" text="black" link="blue" aLink="red" vLink="red">
<a name="top"></a>
<br/><br/>
Interesting you say you've changed the code to this
"<body" & strTmpPageBGImageURL & " bgColor=""" & strPageBGColor & """ text=""" & strDefaultFontColor & """ link=""" & strLinkColor & """ aLink=""" & strActiveLinkColor & """ vLink=""" & strVisitedLinkColor & """>" & vbNewLine & _
"<br /><br />" & vbNewLine & _
Which has removed the <a name="top"></a> bookmark anchor used to take users to the top of the page, yet in your source code I still see it appearing. This to me is realy indicating your page isn't being updated on the server, or your not making changes to both places in inc_header where it writes out the top part of each page.
Please post a link to a copy of your inc_header.asp file (just take a copy of it, rename it inc_header.txt and post us the link please). |
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Edited by - Gremlin on 22 December 2004 20:17:46 |
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