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GauravBhabu
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Posted - 27 March 2003 :  22:25:15  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Heynow777
The threat is Saddam supplying terrorists with WMD.

that is why they are not found in saddam's warehouses
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RichardKinser
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USA
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Posted - 27 March 2003 :  22:28:27  Show Profile
GauravBhabu, so can I hold you to the statement that there are no Weapons of Mass Destruction (Chemical Weapons/Biological Weapons/etc...) in Iraq? Is that what you are saying?
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seven
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USA
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Posted - 27 March 2003 :  22:31:34  Show Profile  Visit seven's Homepage
We haven't even made it to Baghdad... and I hope they check the hospitals and schools too for WMD.

quote:
Originally posted by GauravBhabu

quote:
Originally posted by Heynow777
The threat is Saddam supplying terrorists with WMD.

that is why they are not found in saddam's warehouses


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Heynow
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Posted - 27 March 2003 :  22:33:17  Show Profile  Visit Heynow's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by GauravBhabu

quote:
Originally posted by Heynow777
The threat is Saddam supplying terrorists with WMD.

that is why they are not found in saddam's warehouses


Iraq is a pretty big country, there war going on and we have yet to enter Baghdad. Unless the warehouse has a sign on the front..Chemicals Here

The war has just begun and the truth will come out..


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GauravBhabu
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Posted - 27 March 2003 :  22:38:42  Show Profile
And you are telling as if you found some terrorists with the weaopons which said manufactured and supplied by Saddam.
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GauravBhabu
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Posted - 27 March 2003 :  22:41:23  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by RichardKinser

GauravBhabu, so can I hold you to the statement that there are no Weapons of Mass Destruction (Chemical Weapons/Biological Weapons/etc...) in Iraq? Is that what you are saying?



You can believe as what you think is right, I will believe when some credible and solid evidence is provided by a credible source.

Edited by - GauravBhabu on 27 March 2003 22:44:11
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Heynow
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Posted - 27 March 2003 :  22:44:04  Show Profile  Visit Heynow's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by GauravBhabu

And you are telling as if you found some terrorists with the weaopons which said manufactured and supplied by Saddam.


If this is meant for me....I never claimed that.


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GauravBhabu
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Posted - 27 March 2003 :  22:56:31  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by seahorse

quote:
Originally posted by reinsnitz

News Flash: 26 BILLION people did not protest the war today.



I think that would mean about 20 billion people were born yeasterday.



Quiet a few records must have been set for possible entry in Guinness Book
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RichardKinser
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Posted - 27 March 2003 :  23:23:11  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by GauravBhabu

quote:
Originally posted by RichardKinser

GauravBhabu, so can I hold you to the statement that there are no Weapons of Mass Destruction (Chemical Weapons/Biological Weapons/etc...) in Iraq? Is that what you are saying?



You can believe as what you think is right, I will believe when some credible and solid evidence is provided by a credible source.

so is that a Yes or a No?
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seahorse
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USA
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Posted - 27 March 2003 :  23:52:30  Show Profile  Visit seahorse's Homepage
quote:
quote:

Non-proliferation of WMD refers to all countries. Selective enforcement of non-proliferation against countries unfriendly to the US, makes the US appear hypocirtical and biased. The fact is that the US should be pursing the non-proliferation issue with Israel, Pakistan, India, Iran, and North Korea with equal determination. Most of these countries are lightyears head of Iraq in posessing WMD.


Light-years? How do you know? Look at Saddams record verses the other leaders.



Pakistan and India have already exploded nuclear weapons. Both were under US sactions until 9/11 when Bush lifted them in exchange for cooperation against Al Queda. Unlike Iraq which is trying to develop WMD, Pakistan and India already have them. The CIA estimates that North Korea probably already has one or two nuclear weapons.

While no formal announcement was ever made by the Israelis, most western military experts, including those from the US Military will acknowledge that Israel has nuclear weapons. UN Inspections of Iran's nuclear weapon efforts is on going.

The most recent UN inspections found no evidence that the Iraqi nuclear program had restarted. Biological and Checmical weapons were uncertain.

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seahorse
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Posted - 28 March 2003 :  00:09:53  Show Profile  Visit seahorse's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Heynow777

quote:
Originally posted by seahorse


Saddam Hussein understands far better than any other dictator, the power of the US Armed Forces. He understands how poorly his military performed in the first Gulf War. The idea that he would attack US interests in the region with WMD was highly unlikely. I will acknowledge that the Iraqi military did actively attempt to shoot down Coalition aircraft patroling the Iraqi no-fly zones. Of course, now that we've invaded, I would judge the likelihood of the Iraqis using WMD as quite high, possibly even certain.


The threat is Saddam supplying terrorists with WMD.



[quote]


Pakistan, which has supported the Taliban in the past, has an active nuclear weapons program. As I mentioned earlier, Pakistani nuclear scientists have met with Bin Laden. If preventing terrorists from acquiring WMD is the stated goal, far greater attention should be placed on other countries.

I think it is extremely unlikely that Saddam would give terrorists access to WMD. Bush was more than willing to invade with Iraq just to get better UN inspections of Iraq. Do you think that Saddam, who is already well aware that Bush is looking for any excuse to put a bullet in his head cruise missile through his Presidential Palace window, would be stupid enough to give terrorists access to WMD?

So there are Al Queda terrorists in Iraq. There are Al Queda terrorists in Pakistan too. That doesn't mean that the Pakistanis are giving WMD to terrorists.


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Edited by - seahorse on 28 March 2003 02:06:09
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bjlt
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Posted - 28 March 2003 :  01:27:08  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by seahorse

So there are Al Queda terrorists in Iraq. There are Al Queda terrorists in Pakistan too. That doesn't mean that the Pakistanis are giving WMD to terrorists.




And there are Al Queda terrorists in the US, and I don't know if it means that the Americans are giving WMD to terrorists.

What if an American, not one in close relationship or a member of the terrorists groups on the list, but just an ordinary American, does such a teroorist activity? Isn't it possible? If thathappens, I wonder what the US government would do, esp if he gets the WMD from somewhere in the US.
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Nathan
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USA
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Posted - 28 March 2003 :  01:29:46  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage
Ummm . . . . How about the Oaklahoma City bombing.

Was that not just an ""ordinary American"" doing such a terrorist act?

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Edited by - Nathan on 28 March 2003 01:42:41
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bjlt
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Posted - 28 March 2003 :  03:01:29  Show Profile
Is it possible that someday there are not enough resources, e.g. oil, on the earth to support the cosume of all people?

I wonder what the US will do then. I noticed that the US is the nation that does not want to control the output of CO2, and there are people saying that it's a nation do not want to sacrifice its current interests for that of its offsprings, and the theory of culture conflicts are actually preparing for the fight to control the limited resources.

if it's possible, since the richest people consume more and not want to sacrifice, also the tech is so advanced that many things do not need to be done by poor labors now, their conclusion is some richest people may consider genocidal.

mmnnn...... I have no idea on this myself.
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Nathan
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USA
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Posted - 28 March 2003 :  03:41:16  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage
Don't dump Bush's failure to sign the Kyoto accords on the american people. Many of us agree with the concept and even think it should go FURTHER.

Personally I think that Americans will eventually overcome their consumeristic falts through technology. Unfortuanly in order to get to that point we have to pass though a 'dark age' of polution and resource overuse.

Hopefully if gas prices rise, alternatives will be saught pushing technology further. And hopefully to a cleaner renuable future.

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Edited by - Nathan on 28 March 2003 03:42:19
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