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Rasco
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 Posted - 05 March 2003 : 06:42:27
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Has anybody tested Dreamweaver MX v6? How is the working with it?
I`am thinking about doing a upgrade of my v4. |
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Kat
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United Kingdom
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
5820 Posts |
Posted - 05 March 2003 : 10:06:24
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| I have Macromedia Studio MX which includes Dreamweaver MX and I think it is a lot better than version 4. I've never been much on WYSIWYGs but Dreamweaver MX kind of changed my mind, I still do a lot of hand coding because I don't like the way Dreamweaver does recordsets, but if you need something up and running with a database behind it, you can get is done extremely quick. |
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Kat
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3065 Posts |
Posted - 05 March 2003 : 10:38:38
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| Sorry I am using MX version 6.0 - I just checked. I think it is excellent and I do a large percentage of development with it. |
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seahorse
Senior Member
USA
1075 Posts |
Posted - 05 March 2003 : 20:56:44
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Kat,
What kind of development do you do with DW? Classic ASP? .NET? Is it complicated or just simple stuff?
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Rasco
Advanced Member
Germany
3192 Posts |
Posted - 06 March 2003 : 02:47:10
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| How is the handling of it? Does it still respect handwritten code? |
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
5820 Posts |
Posted - 06 March 2003 : 10:27:14
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Originally posted by Rasco
Does it still respect handwritten code?
most definately does.
Macromedia Studio MX PLUS was just announced which gives more support for PHP features like user authentication. |
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lofty
Junior Member
USA
158 Posts |
Posted - 06 March 2003 : 12:11:07
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Some Pros and Cons I have found with it, which might help you weigh whether or not to upgrade:
Pros:
1. New template features - You can now have repeatable template regions, and also optional template regions. You can also nest a template within a template, for even more control over layout.
2. Code Hints - For hand coding HTML, the Code Hints (or Intellisense) are really great.
3. Cloaking - MX6 lets you cloak certain files and directories, so they aren't included when you "Synchronize" your local files with the remote webserver files.
4. Better color-coding of Server-Side scripts - MX6 recognizes server-side script syntax much better, and colors the code more accurately than in previous versions.
5. DreamweaverMX workspace - Instead of the older "floating windows" approach, MX6 has everything contained in the same window. If you have multiple pages open for editing, they can be accessed by tabs at the bottom of the window. Much more usable IMO.
6. Code snippets - You can now save "snippets" of code, and reuse them by just dragging and dropping. This is great for those little bits of JavaScript that you use once, but want to keep handy in case another client needs it in the future. You can organize your snippets into folders with names.
Cons:
1. Java written app, and it's slow as a dog.
2. Crashes almost once a day for me (Dreamweaver encountered a fatal error and must terminate). I think it starts to have problems with sites > 200 pages. It takes a really long time to update the site cache with large sites, and crashes frequently. Performance is much better with < 200 pages.
3. Code Hints lack ADO object support - Code hints are great for HTML hand-coding, but I was dissappointed when I realized that the ADO object model wasn't supported. So if you want to type "rs", hit the period, and see a list of supported methods and properties, forget about it.
4. Overall a very buggy app - I've just experienced a lot of buggy functionality, crashes, bizarre network errors or glitches, weird UI refreshing problems, etc.
It's love/hate for me because the bugs drive me crazy, but I still use it all the time. |
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
5820 Posts |
Posted - 06 March 2003 : 19:09:19
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| lofty, I don't have any of those problems. what is your OS and machine specs? |
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lofty
Junior Member
USA
158 Posts |
Posted - 07 March 2003 : 17:36:57
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WinXP, P450mHz, 128MB RAM.
It happens on other machines as well. I think it just can't handle larger sites very well. And it's even worse when trying to work with a site over a VPN connection. |
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
5820 Posts |
Posted - 07 March 2003 : 18:39:28
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Roland
Advanced Member
Netherlands
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Posted - 08 March 2003 : 10:47:45
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Doesn't XP require at least 256MB RAM, with 512 MB recommended?
Anyway, has anyone found any good reasons to upgrade to Studio MX Plus? Freehand MX certainly can't be it, and better PHP support in Dreamweaver can't make me upgrade again either. So what's be the big advantage?
It looks to me like MacroMedia is just trying to make more money by selling the same package with one or two extra's as something new. |
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
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Posted - 08 March 2003 : 14:46:25
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there is a lot of flash components that apparently come with it, but I convinced one of my co-workers to upgrade to it ($199) because of one little feature that he really wants which is the PHP Authentication Behaviour that does not exist in the Studio MX version. I wish the plus version included some more .NET stuff but alas, I will not be upgrading.
as for the RAM, yeah, XP loves memory, especially when using the Switching Users feature. I think lofty would find that his large projects are crashing due to that and NOT the Dreamweaver product. |
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seahorse
Senior Member
USA
1075 Posts |
Posted - 11 March 2003 : 02:30:21
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Has anyone here tried building a ASP.NET site with DW? Macromedia says that you can use DW for .net, but I'm curious to see if it can be actually be done.
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lofty
Junior Member
USA
158 Posts |
Posted - 11 March 2003 : 04:33:40
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Nope. That is just my main laptop. It also crashes just as often on my p2.4gHz w/ 512 MB RAM, and on a variety of other systems/configs.
Just my experience, but it doesn't handle large sites very well, and doesn't work well over a network connection (FTP seems to be more reliable for me). I wish I could have one of the MX devs sit down with me so I can ask him/her "why the hell does it do that?" when it does some funky thing and/or crashes. |
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Kat
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3065 Posts |
Posted - 11 March 2003 : 05:02:10
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I use it for writing ASP and JavaScript based HTML prototypes. I tend to handcode the Javascript in as I don't find the inbuilt stuff all that useful but maybe I haven't figured out how to do it yet.
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