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Originally posted by puzo
How many women were killed in 911 which Saddam was somehow responisble for? how many children lost their parents in 911 because of Saddam?
I say let's end the war and let him help in setting up another 911 act.

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Perhaps no one disagrees with the loss of life on 911. Whether Sadaam was behind it or not is not proved either way. So making that incident as a case to attack Iraq is just like hanging a person who is not Guilty. Or Are we living in a world where everyone is Guilty until proved Innocent?

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Originally posted by Heynow777
He is guilty. He has not disarmed...Case closed.

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Not so fast. So it is all about "Not Disarmed". Who else has disarmed. If you want to be a Judge then don't tell your personal opinion.

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Originally posted by Alfred
As to the hatred of everything American by some people,...

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Originally posted by Heynow777
We would not be at war if he did disarm, which he is suppose to under UN guidelines and this is not my personal opinion, this is fact.

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Where is the UN guideline which says, "Okay, Go Attack Iraq now? The fact is US could not get support in UN for this Attack.

"Legitmacy of this action will be questioned." - Kofi Annan

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Even if Sadaam Disarms US will still Attack Iraq - Bush.
UN accepts and passes our Resolution or Not We will still do what we think is Right - Bush

You think US has the privelege to do whatever it wants even if UN does not agree with it then the point that Saddam did not disarm is useless.

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Originally posted by Heynow777
Not totally correct, the US was threatened by France of a veto. The US decided not to wait for a another 9/11 to take place before action was taken. As of now there are 46 countries that have shown support for the actions in Iraq, so its not that the US didn't have the support. Isn't twelve years long enough?

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Isn't twelve years long enough?

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This of course was after the invasion had already started.

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Does this mean that I like the current conflict? No. It's twelve years too late. I rather we get the business of killing Saddam and his cronies done and over with as soon as possible.

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Here you lost me somehow.

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Some estimates for the cost of the war are on the order of $70 to $500 billion dollars, depending on how you choose to calculate the cost.

Frankly, Iraq isn't worth that kind of investment.

Let me put it this way. One JDAM GPS bomb kit, that's the guidance kit alone not including the cost of the actual explosive, is approximately $20,000 US dollars. (Laser guided bombs cost even more.)

$20,000 dollars, that's the cost of a Ford Taurus, Toyota Camry, or Honda Accord.

In the early days of the conflict so far, we've used approximately 3000 guide munitions in the "shock and awe" campaign. In other words, we given up the equivalent of 3000 new automobies (60 million dollars) to just to bomb Iraq so far.

So how many cars is $70 billion dollars? 3.5 million. Enough to give a brand new car to every man, woman, and child in a large American city. That's $70 billion dollars not invested into more productive parts of the economy. $70 billion dollars not used to send American children to college, not used to educate doctors, not used to assist people in purchasing their first home, not used build schools, not used to hire police officers, not used to pay for drugs for the elderly. It is money not used to improve the everyday life of American citizens.

You don't have to invade Iraq to kill Saddam. Park B-2 bombers in relays over Iraq and drop a 2000 lb. JDAM on him when he finally shows his face. Do it for days, weeks, months, years if you have to. It will still be cheaper than to shipping a quarter of a million American troops half way around the world. You also wouldn't piss off a good portion of the globe in the process.

My thinking isn't a great call to an idealistic crusade against Iraq. It's a cold hard calculation. I don't think "liberating" Iraq is worth it. To be honest, I'm not even sure I'd spend that much to liberate France.

editted after Bush annouces his estimate for the cost of the war.

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• ___ times more than the federal research money against AIDS...


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• You could make ___ people in Africa not starve for ___ months...


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• You could provide ___ months more unemployment money for __ people in US (the money W dropped as a christmas gift)


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• ___ times more than the federal research money against Cancer...


• ___ times more than the federal research money against AIDS...


• You could provide medicine for __ people who are suffering from aids.


• You could make ___ people in Africa not starve for ___ months...


• You could provide shelter for homeless ___ people in US for ___ months.


• You could provide ___ months more unemployment money for __ people in US (the money W dropped as a christmas gift)


• You could invest in new industry for __ people.


• You could invest for ___ acres of new woods in US (you have few left)


• ___ times more the money needed to comply with Kyoto protocol (US didn't sign for financial reasons).

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Originally posted by GauravBhabu


My question is did US get to a point where France will have a chance to Veto. US needed 9 votes and it was unable to get those.

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You again bring 911 as the reason for Attack. 911, Disarmament, Regime Change what is it that US is going for.

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You could provide health care for ____ people in US who have no health insurance.

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Its amazing that the US has done the majority of the things on the list and still has money left to fight Iraq...

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It is very disturbing that US wants to use that money to attack other countries and some people find joy in it as if this is another Show of Fireworks.

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I also know of a Clock Ticking at Timessquare which shows the Debt to be paid and numbers are ever increasing.

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