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seven
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 Posted - 23 March 2003 : 20:34:07
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"I don't want anymore jumbo jets slamming into NYC"
"I don't want to die from an anthrax outbreak."
"I don't want my airplane hijacked"
"I don't want to have to fear for our lives"
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Originally posted by bozden
I agree violance is not to be shown on TV. But on the other hand there are a couple of things I want to mention:
1) I saw lots of news on CNN where US soldiers take Iraqi soldiers/civilians as prisonars, hands on their heads since the second day of the war. This is also against Geneva conventions.
2) All TV channels are showing the bombing of the nice city of Bagdat, like a good fireworks show where hundreds of people injured.
3) We may have used to see blood on TV thanks to the film industry, but this time we are NOT in a cinema, it really happens.
Perhaps people can deduce something from this blood-show, think again and say:
"It could be done without war!"
"This was not they promissed to us!"
"I don't want any more wars!"
"Stop the War!"
"Peace, NOW!"
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seven
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 20:36:27
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Top Stories - Reuters
Huge Iraqi Chemical Weapons Factory Found -Fox News
...Could this be the smoking gun?
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Heynow
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 20:41:05
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Originally posted by bozden
1) I saw lots of news on CNN where US soldiers take Iraqi soldiers/civilians as prisonars, hands on their heads since the second day of the war. This is also against Geneva conventions.
Bozden, we don't enteragate our prisoners of war on TV and the only footage you'll see is out in the field and not while in custody. |
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drirene
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 20:52:20
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| The UN inspectors had no clue that this chemical plant existed. |
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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin
USA
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 21:11:13
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Originally posted by bozden
Perhaps people can deduce something from this blood-show, think again and say:
"It could be done without war!"
"This was not they promissed to us!"
"I don't want any more wars!"
"Stop the War!"
"Peace, NOW!"
No, it could not be done without war!
What is it that you think was promised to you?
I think wars are necessary sometimes, this is one of those times!
Continue the war until the objective is achieved!
Peace? With Iraq? Not until Saddam Hussein and his followers are removed! |
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GauravBhabu
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 21:11:28
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Originally posted by snerdley
You would really expect "one" nation to be the "first" to disarm itself? With no guarantee, much less any realistic expectation, that the others would do the same? That would be irrational, insane, suicidal, and a dereliction of duty by whoever headed that country.
Again I say, wake up from your dream. Put forth a "rational, workable" plan for your utopian world. Just dreaming it won't make it happen. I'm saddened to say that you will find no such workable plan. For the nature of man is what it is, and there will always be the bad guys that will not follow nor adhere to the plan. They do not want your utopian world, they want to have "their" world. Where they are king. Where they run the show. Where they call the shots. Where they control everything in their kingdom.
Reality.
One Person, One Family, One Community, One Nation...and A New World and it will happen.
Look within not outside. If not today, if not tommorrow but whenever it has to happen that is how it will happen.
Until then we will all live in a fragmented world saddened and fearful.
Reality is we all want Peace.
Peace. Stop War. |
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GauravBhabu
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 21:17:48
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Originally posted by drirene
The plant is about 100 acres in size, surrounded by electrified fence, and was camoflaged to look like the surrounding sand bank terrain from the air. It's about 100 miles south of Baghdad. Apparently the Pentagon has verified this find according to FOX. Wow!
"It is not yet known what chemicals were being produced at the plant." - Fox News. |
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Alfred
Senior Member
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 21:42:42
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Thatīs possible true, because I donīt live there. Iīm only trying to understand whatīs going on. But to understand the whole thing I should have live there my whole live. BUT: Thatīs the same thing vise versa. Many US people are talking about the bad, bad, Germany and France. And all these people also canīt understand...
Dynamix, therein lies the biggest difference in our understanding of the situation.
You see, I have lived on both sides, on three different continents within very different societies, both very old and very young ones. Including Germany. And in case you think these were just brief visits, consider my age. I had plenty of years to do it. quote:
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Knowing the American people, pictures of this nature would surely achieve the opposite of what those animals - sorry, I love animals -... those subhumans, intended.
Hmm, I donīt thing that Iraqi people are different to americans or germans, or to anyone on this planet. We are all want to live. And the most of us in peace. The only difference is the situation in which you was born...
You are not paying attention to what I say. I was referring to the perpetrators of these crimes, not to the people of Iraq who may well be the next victims of the same subhuman creeps.
The thing about your comments on this particular matter which I find deeply disturbing is that you seem more concerned about how much of the ghastly details is shown on TV than about the fact that it was actually a horrenduous act against all standards of human values.
Does it not bother you not to have any reservation about speaking out on behalf of our common enemies?
Are you that comfortable with taking the side of such obvious evil?
Do a bit of soul searching, and you may well find that in your youthful enthusiasm to appear on the liberal "peace loving" side you have overlooked the very substance of this crisis.
Being probably one of very few in this group who has actually been bombed out of house and home (yes, by American bombers!) I consider myself deeply comitted to peace.
The only thing I hate more than a fight itself is being forced to fight by people who mistake my love of peace as weakness. |
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drirene
Junior Member
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 21:57:02
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How about that other little tidbit that some Russians are in Iraq right now helping them with all sorts of new "illegal" technology they've sold them?
Remember: It was France, Russia and China... |
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 21:57:16
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Originally posted by airilm
"I don't want anymore jumbo jets slamming into NYC"
"I don't want to die from an anthrax outbreak."
"I don't want my airplane hijacked"
"I don't want to have to fear for our lives"
I'm with you in these statements, I know what terrorism means. But WAR is not a solution, nor is any other kind of violance, and they have never been.
You may like to go into more deeper reasons of terrorism. If people were happy/wealthy/educated/... enough, they would not seek that way IMO. |
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drirene
Junior Member
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 21:59:07
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Bozden,
If war is not the way with the current Iraqi administration, the administration that tortures and lies, what is the way? They've already got wealth (or rather Saddam has it). How else can you possibly remove/disarm a ruler who is a threat to the world? |
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 21:59:23
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Originally posted by RichardKinser
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Originally posted by bozden
Perhaps people can deduce something from this blood-show, think again and say:
"It could be done without war!"
"This was not they promissed to us!"
"I don't want any more wars!"
"Stop the War!"
"Peace, NOW!"
No, it could not be done without war!
What is it that you think was promised to you?
I think wars are necessary sometimes, this is one of those times!
Continue the war until the objective is achieved!
Peace? With Iraq? Not until Saddam Hussein and his followers are removed!
These statements were ment to be said by those who are for the war, so there is nothing promised to me...
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 22:01:26
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Originally posted by GauravBhabu
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Originally posted by drirene
The plant is about 100 acres in size, surrounded by electrified fence, and was camoflaged to look like the surrounding sand bank terrain from the air. It's about 100 miles south of Baghdad. Apparently the Pentagon has verified this find according to FOX. Wow!
"It is not yet known what chemicals were being produced at the plant." - Fox News.
I also want to hear these from more independent/dependable sources. Until then no comment necessary.
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 22:05:26
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Originally posted by drirene
Bozden,
If war is not the way with the current Iraqi administration, the administration that tortures and lies, what is the way? They've already got wealth (or rather Saddam has it). How else can you possibly remove/disarm a ruler who is a threat to the world?
The statements above were talking about terrorist attacks and how people in US fear for their future. Thus my statements have nothing to do with Iraq. |
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drirene
Junior Member
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 22:10:36
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Originally posted by bozden
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Originally posted by drirene
Bozden,
If war is not the way with the current Iraqi administration, the administration that tortures and lies, what is the way? They've already got wealth (or rather Saddam has it). How else can you possibly remove/disarm a ruler who is a threat to the world?
The statements above were talking about terrorist attacks and how people in US fear for their future. Thus my statements have nothing to do with Iraq.
I guess we've come full circle: terrorist attacks are ABOUT Iraq. And since I'm on the topic, they are also about North Korea, and every other place that a terrorist may live and operate. |
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