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GauravBhabu
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 Posted - 23 March 2003 : 16:18:17
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The news reports which are being shown on American TV is coming from reporters embedded with the US forces and they have several restrictions on what to show and tell.
During War one thing is certain. There will be lives lost of soldiers and innocent people. Each side will honor its own soldiers, who loose their lives, and they will be called martyrs. Each side at the same time will call the Martyrs as Criminals.
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Reinsnitz
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 16:31:08
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Originally posted by Dynamix
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Originally posted by Heynow777
No, this is not shown in the US. This is Iraqi propaganda and very unfortunate. It has been reported the dead may have been executed and or tortured. This just shows what kind of criminals we are dealing with.
BTW, I don't think most Americans would like to view this video anyway.
But how could it be Iraqi Propaganda? The Interviews with the arrested Soldiers could really be Iraqi Propaganda, but the pictures of the dead soldiers where filmed by an US-Reporter-Team, they told here...
This is Iraqi propoganda in the way that, it is demoralizing to see your brothers and sisters murdered and maimed and then publicly showing their wives and family things that are uterly and completely humiliating.
The Geneva conventions that govern modern day warfare are part of International Law. You guys remember that... those are sactions set by the UN to govern how warfare is carried out. Sadam is now, once again, and will continue to break the laws of the world that you say he is not.
Watch and remember... |
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Reinsnitz
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 16:33:13
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Originally posted by Rasco
Take Mr. Bush and Mr Hussein to a box ring and let them allone 
I wish it was that simple... the world would be much better if it where... but it's not :( |
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Reinsnitz
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 16:38:16
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Originally posted by GauravBhabu
The news reports which are being shown on American TV is coming from reporters embedded with the US forces and they have several restrictions on what to show and tell.
During War one thing is certain. There will be lives lost of soldiers and innocent people. Each side will honor its own soldiers, who loose their lives, and they will be called martyrs. Each side at the same time will call the Martyrs as Criminals.
Peace
Actualy, we have reporters in all major iraqie cities and with some of iraqs governing officials too... and those reporters are actualy geting more weight on American TV... kinda anoying... but it's kinda balanced. |
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GauravBhabu
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 16:42:38
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| I don't know if all but several of them are not there anymore. They returned to Kuwait yesterday after being told by Iraqi Authorities as reported on CNN. |
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GauravBhabu
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 16:49:30
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During War both side will break Laws, committ atrocities (women will be raped and killed, men tortured and killed, children and Old will die) but may admit or deny doing so.
Peace. Stop War. |
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Reinsnitz
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 16:56:22
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Yes, you are right gaurav... but... if it happens by US troops... it is in contradiction to every law and standard we have, they don't have to go ot international courts to get prosecuted, we'll take them down to size... and then we'll ship them over to be tried by the courts of the people who have been harmed. Of that you can be sure.
The contrast here is this, Sadam and the government of Iraq have ordered these atrosities to be carried out on US soldiers in direct violation and flaunting in the face of the World Law that he doesn't care what anyone thinks. They will do whatevever they want... so on top of violating 18 UN resolutions that directly point to Iraq, they are violating Geneva conventions set to rule how war is carried out today. |
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gameboy900
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 17:07:07
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Originally posted by GauravBhabu
I don't know if all but several of them are not there anymore. They returned to Kuwait yesterday after being told by Iraqi Authorities as reported on CNN.
Some of the reporters were told to leave imediately or face being put in prison. Mostly from CNN.
As for the 12 dead/caputred soldiers and the video that they aren't showing in the US. CNN said it's for respect of the families (and rightly so). They are waiting until the families of the soldiers can be contacted and informed officially. Instead of finding out about their dead/captured familiy members on tv. I think you can understand that it would be alot better for their sake to find out in person instead of seeing their dead/captured husbands/brothers/etc on tv. |
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sr_erick
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 17:42:38
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| CNN showed a picture of some unidentifiable body parts, but said the rest of the video was too graphic, and also what gameboy900 said. |
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snerdley
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 17:47:26
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Trying to reason with the peace-niks is futile.
The same could be said about war-niks :)
Cute comeback, but totally without merit. You're comparing apples & oranges. "We" accept the fundmental "truth" about evil persons existing and needing to be dealt with. "We" will go the extra mile for a "peaceful" solution. "We" just spent the last 12 years going that extra mile for a peaceful solutution. Peace is always the best way. But when every peacful avenue has been exhausted, "we" have the courage to step up to our responsiblity to deal with the problem. Not just close our eyes to it and hope that it simply goes away, or that it somehow just magically works out. That's how the dreamers deal with it..... they ignore reality while dreaming of a utopia that will never happen in this world. Not that the dream is wrong, it is a noble dream indeed. But dreams are for those who sleep, while those who are awake in reality are making sure that the dreamers can continue to sleep well and dream their dream.
War is never an option for the peace-niks. Thus, there is no way to "enforce" any peaceful sanctions. The really bad guys will find a way around any and all peaceful sanctions. So where does that leave them? Back to their dream of course, and hoping for the best.
The bad guys love the peace-niks.
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Heynow
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snerdley
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 18:40:21
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Originally posted by Heynow777
Looks like our Russain friends are giving their helping hand. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,81917,00.html
Two other companies have sold anti-tank missiles and thousands of night-vision goggles in violation of U.N. sanctions.
When people see that there is no "enforcement" of sanctions, it is but a trivial thing to violate them. But you will need to awake from your dreaming to see and understand this.
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ruirib
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 18:51:18
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Originally posted by Dynamix
[quote]Originally posted by RichardKinser
Oh, and since when does ruirib live in America? I believe he lives in Portugal (that's what is listed as his country in his profile).
I live in Portugal, yes. Portugal is a western democracy, no better no worse than Germany in what relates to freedom of information. I have access to CNN, BBC World, Sky News (and ABC News), several French and German channels, and many independent news media (TVs, radios, journals). One of our TV stations is a 24 hour news channel with its own reporters in Iraq, Kuwait, Jordan, the US, the UK, you name it. Just to make it clear that my views do not result from any lack of information.
Now regarding the images of the dead US soldiers, what I think was done was avoiding their display until the families of the dead can be notified. Even if it was not the case, I would probably agree if the images were not to be shown in US TV networks. Do you think images of captured cities are shown in Iraq's TVs? Why should a democracy fight with lesser weapons than a dictatorship, if the use does not violate any fundamental rights? I don't think the US is denying the deaths, just choosing not to show them.
America lost the Vietnam war largely due to the lack of will to keep on fighting, and the press and TV had a huge impact on that outcome. I'm just glad that lesson was learned. |
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GauravBhabu
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 19:17:18
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Originally posted by reinsnitz
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Originally posted by GauravBhabu
My wish. One Summit. One Resolution. "All Nations, All People should destroy all kinds of weaopns without questioning who will be the first to do so but with a committment to be the first to do so."
Peace.
That would be a wonderfull thing, I hope some day it can happen!
Sure can! It has to start with One Person, One Family, One Community, One Nation and it will be a New World.
Gandhi, Martin Luther King and many more made this committment and people followed...
Peace. Stop War.
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Reinsnitz
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Posted - 23 March 2003 : 19:26:43
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| Malcom X? um... ok |
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