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Alfred
Senior Member
USA
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 Posted - 21 March 2003 : 21:12:09
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Reading through the comments in this thread confirms my opinion of this unusually intelligent community.
Not only is it very gratifying to see that a hot subject like this one is discussed in a civil and respectful manner, but what's more, the overall opinion does not reflect the mob mentality present in other circles, and individuals are not afraid to stand up for their beliefs in the face of what the media portrays as "world opinion".
I knew before that this was an exceptional group of people, but this cements my admiration.
My deep respects to all who are part of it! |
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The Battle Group
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seven
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 21 March 2003 : 21:27:03
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Alfred
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 21 March 2003 : 22:44:55
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Bozden, since you asked for it in the interest of a restful night's sleep I will oblige you and counter some of your positions.
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I was asking if people are listening to the other side also.
Those who did found lie after lie, and deception after deception.quote:
Sometimes it will be harder if you watch into the eyes of the victim.
and the victim being...who? The murderous dictator and his henchmen, or the millions killed by them?
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You cannot free them unless they want to.
...and you are sure that they don't want to be free - after all, their leader said so, right? They much prefer to be slaughtered on a whim - maybe when they dare voice their own opinions?quote:
Because they are against any kind of war? Because they are against USA?
Yes, quite so - until it is on their own soil. Then the U.S. is good enough to pull the coals out of the fire for them. God bless those, they are always there when they need us!quote:
Does it matter to you if the rest of the world is against your wishes?
Aren't you making an assumption there? Or are you watching too much of the liberal media?
The loudest howlers are not always representative of the majority.
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Will the world be right for you if they accept the American Way of Living?
The average American couldn't care less whether they live like us or not. But we get a little nervous when they ram jumbo jets into our office buildings (in the case of Bin Laden), or call for holy wars unless we take on their religion. Have you ever heard us condemning a Moslem (or any other ethnic group) for their religious beliefs?quote:
In my country, it finishes at the time the intruder is thrown out.
Historically, this is correct. As a born Viennese I know about two Ottoman invasions that were stopped at the doors of Vienna.
What's different here is that our boys can't wait to get out of that forsaken desert and return home to their families. That is why they will try to make it quick.quote:
How would you feel and do if your country were invaded?
To free me from a tyrant? I would kiss the invaders' hands. |
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Heynow
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sr_erick
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 21 March 2003 : 23:31:53
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Originally posted by Heynow777
Well said Alfred..
I agree, very well said.
Another thing Bozden, your country is now sending in troops. It may be for a different cause but they are still sending them in. |
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Reinsnitz
Snitz Forums Admin
USA
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Posted - 21 March 2003 : 23:34:55
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Kiss their hands? You nuts!!!!??!??!?!?!!!! Kiss the fool smak on the lips... who would care at that point!!!... Cheeks at the very leaste!...
Bottom line though on the "How would you feel and do if your country were invaded?" question is that we were invaded. Slightly different, but phylisophicaly the same, and your seeing how we would react.
Remember everyone, keep it civil  and remember, after this war is over... Watch and Remember. The heart of America will show for what it is. |
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drirene
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 00:38:27
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I see things very differently than Bozden does. I am in fact diametrically opposed to his interpretation of events. But he is a thoughful and moderate, though emotional man, who has gifted me with a much better understanding of Turkey's historical plight with a war in Iraq.
If I were Turkish I think I would feel the same way he does. Iraqi wars are a potentially devastating event. I can only pray that the war is over quickly, that the Turks and the Kurds steer clear of each other, that the coalition can help ease these problems, can help prevent the Turkish military from taking over, and that that area of the world is stabalized very quickly.
May God and Allah and the rest of the crew up there be with all of us now.
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deepakp
Starting Member
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 02:11:12
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hi,
i am an new member but i a just 17 years of age .war is regarded as a greatest curse in the world today ,some people think that why is there war in beautiful world of ours.butt at any cost my opinion towards war is 'stop being violent and make the earth as a better place' |
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GauravBhabu
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 08:18:58
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yet 45 nations have pledged support for us,...
Now which are these 45 countries? How many of them are (Strong economically or politically, Self-dependent) Or (Week economically or politically, Dependent, expecting/promised benefits in exchange of support).
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yet 30,000 troops are about to surrender without a gun shot...
These are the ones who have no courage to fight for their right, for the fear of death from forces within or outside. They will also be known as who betrayed their Commanders.
'I do not support War' and I say so without any if's and but's attached.
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Reinsnitz
Snitz Forums Admin
USA
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 10:39:48
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Originally posted by deepakp
...butt at any cost my opinion towards war is 'stop being violent and make the earth as a better place'
Your absolutely right... and unfortunately, it takes a war to prevent a bigger war in the future... it's so sad that some people (like Sadam) are so focused on violence, and are so self centered, that they will not respond to anything but war... It is the saddest thing to me... but if that is the only language someone him will understand, then that is the language we have to talk. |
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Heynow
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 11:46:06
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Originally posted by GauravBhabu
Now which are these 45 countries? How many of them are (Strong economically or politically, Self-dependent) Or (Week economically or politically, Dependent, expecting/promised benefits in exchange of support).
How many middle eastern countries won't show their support because they fear possible terrorist attacks in retaliation? Maybe those "Week economically or politically, Dependent, expecting/promised benefits in exchange of support countries?" should look to other countries for economic aid...Oh yeah that's right there are none. Well, thanks goodness for the USA and I'm quite sure you'll here plenty of that after Iraq is liberated.
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These are the ones who have no courage to fight for their right, for the fear of death from forces within or outside. They will also be known as who betrayed their Commanders.
It's not courage, it's intelligent. They have a choice to fight for a dictator and probably die or give up themselves up and be liberated by a foreign non-Arab country. |
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Reinsnitz
Snitz Forums Admin
USA
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 12:27:11
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| Nearly all Arab Governments nations are in full support of US efforts at this time. However they do fear reprisal so are keeping their support silent. |
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GauravBhabu
Advanced Member
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 12:53:14
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| Intelligence? It is a surrender. They surrendered to power within now they are surrendering to power from outside and they will surrender again when another stronger power shows its muscles. |
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Doug G
Support Moderator
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 12:53:44
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Have you ever heard us condemning a Moslem (or any other ethnic group) for their religious beliefs?
Yes. Jerry Falwell, Franklin Graham, and about any show on Faux News blames Islam with regularity.
I don't support the actions of my country. It doesn't seem to me to be in the best interests of the US to create a new alignment of nations, with potentially France, Germany, Russia, China and others in a close relationship against us, but that is already happening. The news yesterday of France, Germany and Belgium calling for a meeting to set up their common defense, excluding Britan, doesn't bode well for the future of the world or the EU.
If the US had come up with any credible evidence that a) Saddam has wmd or b) Saddam had an active role in 9/11, then I'd think differently. I have a hard time with the "just believe us" attitude of the administration, particularly based on the history of the main people involved.
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GauravBhabu
Advanced Member
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 13:02:22
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Only reason for going to War is because USA adminstration failed to provide credible evidence for so called WMD's. More than 1500 Missiles, Bombs felled over Bagdhad, oh well...these are Weaopns of Peace because they are stamped USA.
I have heard nothing beyond this statement... "We(USA) believe Iraq has WMD's and is a threat to US Interests." Well who knows these will be planted in Iraq now to prove that point. |
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