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Alfred
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 Posted - 22 March 2003 : 13:15:51
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Only reason for going to War is because USA adminstration failed to provide credible evidence for so called WMD's
You may well be correct with this assumption, although not in the way you meant it.
For some people it may be the only way to show that fact, because the enemy has shown over many years that they are superior to us in deception.
We spent billions to make those weapons "stamped USA" as accurate as we could to prevent unintended damage, unlike the indiscriminate terror weapons the enemy developed (and used) - on his neighbors AND on his own people.
I suggest you watch the news more closely, and return next week to read your present statements again. |
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GauravBhabu
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 13:25:12
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What made you think, I am not watching the news closely. I have been hearing, reading and watching the following statement now for several days "Shock And Awe". This is Terror.
Spent Billions...yeah they are printed in the press. |
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GauravBhabu
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 13:31:44
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What if France, Germany, Russia, China and other countries, those who do not support this war, decide to use their might to stop the USA and Allies from continuing with this Attack...Think about it where it will lead...Those countries are sensible enough to have not made this decision. There are many countries who have these "Accurate Weaopns".
Stop War. |
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Alfred
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 13:36:12
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Spent Billions...yeah they are printed in the press
As fas as I can tell, they came out of our pockets.
As will the money for all the aid the Iraqi people will need from us after we rid them of their tyrants.
I don't intend to get into a heated discussion over this issue, because I have experienced the "I have made up my mind - don't confuse me with facts" syndrome often before in my life.
I will only repeat my previous suggestion, and then sign off for good in this thread:
I suggest you watch the news more closely, and return next week to read your present statements again. |
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GauravBhabu
Advanced Member
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 13:42:04
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Originally posted by Alfred
...As will the money for all the aid the Iraqi people will need from us...
I have heard several statements that the money to rebuild will come from within Iraq...so it won't be from your pocket...
Watch and read the news carefully and come back any time.
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Reinsnitz
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USA
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 13:46:16
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GauravBhabu, They won't. And if they did we would not change our stance. All the nations you listed have agreed that the forces behind Terror should be stoped at whatever cost. Now they, like the UN, have lost their backbone to actualy do what they said should be done. The United States does what it says it will do. We are going to disarm those who would strike out against us and our allies.
Proof was given to the UN and all nations in question. They ignored the evidence and said that they wanted to have us wait even longer for their own inspectors to find more evidence. Even though they had found all that was needed to solidify the position that these WD's do exist.
Watch and remember. |
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seven
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USA
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 14:02:52
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Sure it is Terror, no doubt about it. But it's who were terrorizing that matters. Were not slamming cruise missles into commercial places of business or homes of innocent Iraqi's.
Hell, we even left the lights on as to not inconvience the people of Iraq.
I think to pre-accuse the US of planting WMD to justify this war is a sad thing to say.
What did you expect the US to do after 9/11, forgive and forget? Not to worry if Saddam may or may not have WMD? Waiting for the mushroom cloud or dirty bomb plast in Time Square to determine if he had them is not an acceptable answer for the vast majority of Americans.
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Originally posted by GauravBhabu
What made you think, I am not watching the news closely. I have been hearing, reading and watching the following statement now for several days "Shock And Awe". This is Terror.
Spent Billions...yeah they are printed in the press.
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GauravBhabu
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 14:14:24
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9/11 incidence (surely sad and I have said so earlier so don't think for a moment that I support any such acts and for any matter I do not support War) has destroyed the confidence(mostly because of Geographical advantage) USA had that they cannot be attacked by the enemy. Who is the enemy behind that? Afghanistan, Iraq. Where will USA go bombing next for the same reason?
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seven
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 14:30:56
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Hopefully not North Korea.
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Originally posted by GauravBhabu
9/11 incidence (surely sad and I have said so earlier so don't think for a moment that I support any such acts and for any matter I do not support War) has destroyed the confidence(mostly because of Geographical advantage) USA had that they cannot be attacked by the enemy. Who is the enemy behind that? Afghanistan, Iraq. Where will USA go bombing next for the same reason?
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Heynow
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 14:31:24
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| Well, when these counties (mostly Arab) stop these terrerorists from blowing up innocent civilian, then these countries that support and harbor these murderers will be left alone. It's up to them. Saddam Hussein is a criminal and to let him have weapons of mass destruction is a little too dangerous. After 9/11 many Americans take any threat very serious...Times have changed. |
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richfed
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DJBBIZ
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 14:57:57
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You know the funniest thing in this topic is the uniform inexperience and lack of political savy that we all often show as we get wrapped up in the personal feelings of our actions. Everyone who has ever worked for a large corporation, government entity...or been invoved in a major project, merger & acquisition, ran a multi billion dollar business, led a team of 1000's of employees...knows that what they see publicly in not everything that goes on behind the scenes by design. The orchestrated end result has always been hashed out, discussed and strategized so the public message delivers a coherent and deliberate response to solicit the results they want. Now what goes on behind the scenes to get there is another story, much like a board of directors fighting over the ultimate strategy of a major corporation.
Does anyone not believe that there are countries out there who have told the coalition that because of political and majority opinions in their countries they cannot and will not publicly support a war or invasion of a territory, but if you want to do it we won't get in your way...?
If, China, France, Germany and Russia decided thay wanted to stop this you don't think they could? As a citizen of the US I support our actions in Iraq, but if you told me the collective troops of these countries were gathering to defend Iraq and that we would embark on a major world war, I would say forget it its not worth that price as would most of my countrymen . I know we would all like to think our countries have the higest of values but you cannot believe that the same kinds of negotiations and gamesmanship goes on here as goes on in the rest of the world in all political arenas public or private. In my dealings over the years in this arena, the people I have met and the conversations I have had make me laugh sometimes by the interpetation of the events by the newspapers and the general public. How fast we forget things like Watergate, Ollie North, Noriega, the Bay of Pigs...Most people have no idea and maybe never really will know what has been going on behind the scenes during this sad time for world peace.
I think the only thing we can say with certainty is that the regime in Iraq is oppressive and the personal leaders have been documented to be serial killers and rapists by an overwelming majority of family members, aids, citizens...and that those people should never be allowed to hold the future of any human being in their power. But as for the way of life over there, it is what it is and they will never adopt the exact same values that we have and I can understand many people not wanting us there, but I can also understand an individual not wanting to be abducted, raped or killed while going about their everyday lives. |
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sr_erick
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 14:59:05
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| The only reason France doesn't want to get involded in war is because they are profiting off of Iraq all the time, selling the illigal weapons....they back down at any war and just let people come in and take over. Same in WW2. The USA and Britain had to send trrops in to back the Germans out after France just gave up thier country. Save with the civil war, France supported the south because they were in trade for cotton with them. They only look for thier best intests, that's it IMO. |
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GauravBhabu
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 15:01:19
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Originally posted by richfed
Where's the problem?
Problem is Attitude which comes with the belief that We are the Super Power and we will do what ever we want even if no one agrees with us and no one can stop us . |
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Reinsnitz
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USA
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Posted - 22 March 2003 : 15:06:54
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France, Russia, China and North Korea have helped to arm Iraq with the WMD's that they have, and the stockpiles that they have built up in Iraq to build the WMD's (weather they are built or not they have planed and stocked to build them).
Those four countries in particular are realy on the hot plate for what they have done. Hopefully the UN will not be so weak in dealing with them as they were with Sadam |
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