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seahorse
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 Posted - 19 March 2003 : 22:16:48
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| BTW, did you guys read the link I gave above and/or listen to the whole press conference by Iraqi Minister of Foreign Affairs held yesterday? |
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Reinsnitz
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USA
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Posted - 19 March 2003 : 22:23:59
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| Boz, please watch and remember. |
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weeweeslap
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USA
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Posted - 20 March 2003 : 15:29:19
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| how long you guys think this war will last? |
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Reinsnitz
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Posted - 20 March 2003 : 15:43:43
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| the war? A week... rebuilding stuff? 6 months to a year... helping people? Forever... |
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PeeWee.Inc
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Posted - 20 March 2003 : 15:54:31
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| A week? I am thinking along the lines of a year. |
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weeweeslap
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Posted - 20 March 2003 : 15:59:42
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| I'm also thinking between a week through 2 weeks. Why do you think a year? |
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Nathan
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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 March 2003 : 18:42:22
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Originally posted by bozden
BTW, did you guys read the link I gave above and/or listen to the whole press conference by Iraqi Minister of Foreign Affairs held yesterday?
And you actually believe what this guy has to say, I am astonished.
As someone who has lived and worked in Iraq I know what it is like, what little infrastructure they have to destroy was not built by the Iraqi government, unless it had a military purpose.
This is a country that shoots its own civilians for desertion if they try to leave a city which is being bombarded. It is a country wher you do not speak the presidents name in company for fear of being interrogated. |
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seven
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 20 March 2003 : 19:18:25
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So, why does the rest of the world have such a hard time with us trying to make things right for the people of Iraq?
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Originally posted by HuwR
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Originally posted by bozden
BTW, did you guys read the link I gave above and/or listen to the whole press conference by Iraqi Minister of Foreign Affairs held yesterday?
And you actually believe what this guy has to say, I am astonished.
As someone who has lived and worked in Iraq I know what it is like, what little infrastructure they have to destroy was not built by the Iraqi government, unless it had a military purpose.
This is a country that shoots its own civilians for desertion if they try to leave a city which is being bombarded. It is a country wher you do not speak the presidents name in company for fear of being interrogated.
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Reinsnitz
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Posted - 20 March 2003 : 22:27:36
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Lack of Knowledge, unfortunately the media is not their own. (that is my personal opinion, and don't think it's too far off). Decades of miss-information leads to people not questioning it anymore.
The world is not supposedly for the war, yet 45 nations have pledged support for us, and the people of Iraq don't supposedly want any help from the US, yet 30,000 troops are about to surrender without a gun shot.
Think about it. Watch, and remember. |
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Posted - 21 March 2003 : 02:58:12
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Originally posted by HuwR
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Originally posted by bozden
BTW, did you guys read the link I gave above and/or listen to the whole press conference by Iraqi Minister of Foreign Affairs held yesterday?
And you actually believe what this guy has to say, I am astonished.
I was asking if people are listening to the other side also. Sometimes it will be harder if you watch into the eyes of the victim.
I also watched W speaking twice, although I don't believe him either.
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As someone who has lived and worked in Iraq I know what it is like, what little infrastructure they have to destroy was not built by the Iraqi government, unless it had a military purpose.
This is a country that shoots its own civilians for desertion if they try to leave a city which is being bombarded. It is a country wher you do not speak the presidents name in company for fear of being interrogated.
I've never been in Iraq, but I've been in some other Arabic countries. Personally I don't like their way of life, but who am I to speak of their culture? What I know is, they cannot live like you do, or I do. You cannot free them unless they want to.
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So, why does the rest of the world have such a hard time with us trying to make things right for the people of Iraq?
Because you don't have the right? Because you are not right? Because they are against any kind of war? Because they are against USA? Because you don't respect anything valuable to them? ...
Does it matter to you if the rest of the world is against your wishes?
Will the world be right for you if they accept the American Way of Living?
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how long you guys think this war will last?
In my country, it finishes at the time the intruder is thrown out.
How would you feel and do if your country were invaded?
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but to believe the above statement really makes me question your position
Please do question my position! I will not be able to sleep in case you don't... This is what I believe that is true and I think you are completely wrong. Perhaps I need to invade your country and show you "my right"?
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Classicmotorcycling
Development Team Leader
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Posted - 21 March 2003 : 04:35:26
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I haven't said much on this subject, but think it is about time for me to say my feelings towards the WAR on IRAQ...
I was totally against it, thinking that the US should have given IRAQ more time to come clean about their weapons. But as soon as IRAQ fired the SCUD Missiles (the ones they said they did not have), then I have to think that the UN lost their bottle and got it wrong.
If a country (irrespective of which country) lies to the international community about weapons of mass destruction, and said that they destroyed them some time ago, then all of a sudden decide to use them, then the international community has not only a legal obligation, but a moral obligation to remove the dictator from power for the good of the rest of the world.
Civilian casualties will be unavoidable, but I realise that they will happen for the rest of the world to live at peace, and can only say sorry for me and what I believe should now happen. What else has IRAQ got, that they said they no longer have, chemical or nuclear weapons?
Coalition forces go and kick the dictator’s butt for the rest of the world.
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HuwR
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Posted - 21 March 2003 : 04:46:23
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Because you don't have the right? Because you are not right? Because they are against any kind of war? Because they are against USA? Because you don't respect anything valuable to them? ...
So what do you propose we do? when will it be right? the Iraqi government have been flaunting and breaking international law for the last 10 years and are now firing NON EXISTANT missiles, so who do you believe now, a man who denied having any missiles only a month ago, or the people trying to remove them ?
Most of the Iraqi people will welcome being liberated by the coallition troups, they are just not able to voice their own opinions under fear of DEATH |
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Kent
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United States
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Posted - 21 March 2003 : 14:17:27
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At the risk of being considered totally politically-incorrect.... God Bless You, HuwR, for your firm statements based on first-hand knowledge, and God Bless your PM, Tony Blair, also, for his strong, unwavering support. As an American, it is so heart-warming to hear you use the term "we"....
American foreign policy can fairly be criticized as inconsistent, fumbling or bumbling, but we have NO Imperialist motivation and do not conquer and occupy... instead, we liberate and go home. We helped liberate Europe, largely rebuilt the European and Japanese economies, and must now compete with them economically on the international market. Sadly, much of the lack of support that we now receive is also economically motivated.... |
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