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LanKuchang
Junior Member
Malaysia
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 Posted - 19 February 2003 : 14:03:48
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alfred,
i do not mean to encourage my way if you concern about intrusion.
here how i start running my own webserver a year ago. of course now it getting sophisticated due to security concern. (who like to be hacked?)
i got dsl with dynamic ip address --cheap, always on connection, no phone bill.
adsl modem connect to--> a broadband router (NAT, DHCP, firewall together in it) -->connect to a switch -->web server on a spare pc (PWS on win 95). i like it instantly because i can host a web page without having to ftp. edit my page, hit refresh. easy..
then i need a domain name, so i use one of the many dynamic dns services, which auto update if my ip change.
need to know for a start; how to configure the router for NAT, firewall and DHCP.
next; setting up dynamic dns service.
Next will be hell load of reading to have a full blown fast, secure and reliable webserver. the learning process never end.
need to pay monthly; DSL bill and wattage for the PC having to run 24/7.
dial-up is possible but i always worry about phone bill to host 24/7.
guess that what it takes to run your own webserver..
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lofty
Junior Member
USA
158 Posts |
Posted - 19 February 2003 : 14:25:47
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It just struck me as odd to suggest deeper investigation BEFORE weighing the basic pros and cons.
Reading about these matters is a critical part of weighing the Pros and Cons of running your own server. If you don't know what you are doing, you can have other problems besides accidentally installing a DHCP server.
Do you have time to read about firewalls and network security? Simply hanging your server off your cabel/dsl modem without a firewall is asking for trouble. Your machine will be scanned and exploited in minutes. You need to not only keep up with all Windows 2000/.NET service packs, but also all IIS, SQL Server, MDAC, and other patches and updates. This is a lot of work.
Maybe you want to run an email server at some point? If you are hosting your website, you might want to receive email for that domain. Are you ready to read about spamming techinques and relaying? If you don't, you could potentially open your server up for a spammer to send millions of spam emails through it.
I'm not trying to discourage you from doing it. I just think you need to add some reading time to your Pros and Cons list. I have a lot of fun setting up servers at home, and I learn a lot from it.
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Alfred
Senior Member
USA
1527 Posts |
Posted - 19 February 2003 : 14:25:55
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Good thinking, Lan - that is pretty much the way I see it.
DSL service is the most suitable for the purpose I feel, although there is no phone bill involved with my current dial-up service either.
The most compelling hesitation for me would be the additional expertise I would need to acquire to configure all that, to keep it maintained, and to protect it. |
Alfred
The Battle Group
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LanKuchang
Junior Member
Malaysia
120 Posts |
Posted - 19 February 2003 : 15:28:54
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alfred,
i guess for you to mature in this hosting stuff you need to - just do it. while i did on win95, it was on a 4 GB hdd. always cross my fingers then. but it if get hacked, i'll just wipe the hdd. redo everything from back-up. luckly it never get hacked.
the router provide some sort of hackers logging and i seen lot's of hacking activities like IP Spoofing and such.
may be you could start with reading the router manual.. it'll take you to more reading from there. but you can do it one step at a time and gaining more knowledge as you go.
as lofty and many others pointed out here -- their reasons are valid, whether they sound discouraging or otherwise. knowledge/information -- you can't live without it, but you cannot get much done just by having knowledge. got to get your hands dirty along the way.
i got a feeling you'll do it anyway despite your hesitation  |
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OneWayMule
Dev. Team Member & Support Moderator
Austria
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Alfred
Senior Member
USA
1527 Posts |
Posted - 10 March 2003 : 03:29:11
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Thanks, Mule!
What is the consensus on server speed difference between a home DSL connection and a commercial server's trunk line? |
Alfred
The Battle Group
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Alfred
Senior Member
USA
1527 Posts |
Posted - 11 March 2003 : 14:12:08
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Huw, I hope you see this:
I just registered on your Flying Mushroom site, but was not mailed any key activation, and cannot sign in with the name and password I just entered.  |
Alfred
The Battle Group
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OneWayMule
Dev. Team Member & Support Moderator
Austria
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Alfred
Senior Member
USA
1527 Posts |
Posted - 12 March 2003 : 10:32:04
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He doesn't give his address on any forum, and I don't want to register under yet another name and password.
After deciding to shelve my own server for now and signing up with Huw's ReddiWeb service for the next year I never heard from anyone.
I did mail him to his webhost address, but have not had a response from there either.
There is no other way I know to make contact.
Then this morning a note came from Paypal:
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Reddi web limited (sales@reddi-web.com) has refunded your payment.
Note from Seller:
unable to contact you.
The details of your original payment are below:
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Payment Details
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Date Payment Sent: Mar 10, 2003
Amount: 75.00 Pounds Sterling
This is really annoying, because I am thoroughly fed up with my brinkster account, which has had more downtime than uptime lately.
Now it gets delayed by another day or two.  |
Alfred
The Battle Group
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seven
Senior Member
USA
1037 Posts |
Posted - 12 March 2003 : 17:19:45
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I hereby declare the line below to be the end of this topic, please do not pass, do not collect $200. Thank you. 
(I can't wait for the replies)
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
7528 Posts |
Posted - 13 March 2003 : 01:26:40
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What is the consensus on server speed difference between a home DSL connection and a commercial server's trunk line?
Commercial Server trunk lines are 10's if not 100's of times faster in most cases :) |
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Alfred
Senior Member
USA
1527 Posts |
Posted - 13 March 2003 : 10:39:04
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That stands to reason, running on T1 and T3 lines, etc.
But doesn't it depend on the volume allocated to each line?
What I mean is if you are on a commecial trunk line along with another 1000 accounts, may it not be harder to access your site than if you are the only one on your DLS line? |
Alfred
The Battle Group
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
7528 Posts |
Posted - 13 March 2003 : 21:33:11
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| Actually probably not, becuase the commercial size pipes that providers have are able to "burst" at higher speeds when they need to be able to push out extra data. |
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Alfred
Senior Member
USA
1527 Posts |
Posted - 13 March 2003 : 21:56:50
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The only "bursts" my previous web host ever had must have broken the wires.
On the best days it made the browsers time out instead of totally hanging up my forums! |
Alfred
The Battle Group
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
7528 Posts |
Posted - 13 March 2003 : 22:46:47
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| lol :) |
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