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lofty
Junior Member
USA
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 Posted - 17 February 2003 : 11:49:22
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No one will know that you are running a server on a cable or dsl connection. You really don't need to worry about that. They have those clauses because they don't want people installing DHCP servers on their networks that start assigning bad or conflicting IPs to their other cients.
Of course, if you screw up your installation and accidentally install a DHCP server that points outward, they'll find you and probably disconnect you. Other than that, most cable or DSL providers don't monitor for server-type traffic. As long as your site isn't getting millions of hits a day and slowing down the backbone to a crawl, you won't have any problems. |
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Roland
Advanced Member
Netherlands
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Posted - 17 February 2003 : 12:07:47
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| Over here most ISPs advertise being able to set up your own server as one of the good things about medium-fast and fast DSL connections. I guess you could say they encourage people to do that and host their own sites. |
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Alfred
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 17 February 2003 : 14:24:02
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As long as your site isn't getting millions of hits a day and slowing down the backbone to a crawl
wouldn't that be a dreamy thought! I have of course no idea what a DHCP server is!
BTW, I just found out that Pac Bell (SFB now) finally offers DSL service in our area. They joined with yahoo to market it, but I don't like the sound of the package - it smells too much of the proprietary stuff, reminding one of AOL, and that is scary.
The simple dial-up I am using now is how I would like my DSL to be - just a connection, and nothing else, please! |
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seven
Senior Member
USA
1037 Posts |
Posted - 17 February 2003 : 16:32:49
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| Won't you need Windows server or be limited to 10 concurrent connections? |
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
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Posted - 17 February 2003 : 20:06:25
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Originally posted by airilm
Won't you need Windows server or be limited to 10 concurrent connections?
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Nikkol
Forum Moderator
USA
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Posted - 17 February 2003 : 20:24:13
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Originally posted by dayve
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Originally posted by airilm
Won't you need Windows server or be limited to 10 concurrent connections?
correct.
And it is mighty expensive just to run your own (non-profit) forum. |
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
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Posted - 17 February 2003 : 20:45:37
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Originally posted by Nikkol
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Originally posted by dayve
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Originally posted by airilm
Won't you need Windows server or be limited to 10 concurrent connections?
correct.
And it is mighty expensive just to run your own (non-profit) forum.
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seahorse
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 17 February 2003 : 21:29:16
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Alfred,
If money is the primary issue, I think it might be best if you just selected an inexpensive host. Keeping up with the maintenance for your server may be more trouble than it is worth. I'm sure Gremlin would be more than happy to hook you up.
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lofty
Junior Member
USA
158 Posts |
Posted - 18 February 2003 : 14:13:05
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| And if you don't know what a DHCP server is, then I think you have a lot more reading to do before you even think about setting up your own server. |
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Classicmotorcycling
Development Team Leader
Australia
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Posted - 18 February 2003 : 15:26:13
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Dayve,
It was OK as it was a learning experience, and still is.. I am even hosting a site for another Motorcycle club, and they liked the speed. I was even browsing the web while people surfed the pages. Mind you it was costing me $AUS150.00 a month to run via dial-up, now I only pay $AUS75.00 a month for a faster connection.  quote:
Originally posted by dayve
you ran a forum off of a dialup? I am not even happy with the speeds I am getting on dsl so I couldn't imagine how dialup would be. how much traffic did you get CM?
I got about 100 users a day on www.classicmotorcycling.com.au, but now get about 300 a day. The other site was getting 50 users a day, now gets about the same. 
Mind you I have a Unix firewall (screwed down tight), and Windows 2000 server with the latest hot fixes and I have 8 IP addresses from the current ISP (64 IP addresses from the previous ISP). 
I still only do it for fun.. Do a bit of web page stuff on the side and that normally pays for the connection now.
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Alfred
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 18 February 2003 : 17:46:10
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If money is the primary issue, I think it might be best if you just selected an inexpensive host. Keeping up with the maintenance for your server may be more trouble than it is worth. I'm sure Gremlin would be more than happy to hook you up.
I have been using a commercial server for the last 3 years, so I don't need any hook up. I pretty much feel that economy-wise it may be a toss-up, and would not consider it for money-saving reasons. But sometimes I wonder whether my own spare machine may not be less susceptible to hang-ups than my server is.
On the other hand it may well be more trouble than it's worth...
Switching to a better server is probably easier and quicker.
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And if you don't know what a DHCP server is, then I think you have a lot more reading to do before you even think about setting up your own server.
Interesting observation. You knew that BEFORE you got any interest in the matter? |
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
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Posted - 19 February 2003 : 02:42:08
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| I think the observation was that you might want to read up a little more on servers before trying to setup your own rather than any criticisim regarding what you may or may not currently know Alfred. |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
20601 Posts |
Posted - 19 February 2003 : 03:11:59
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And if you don't know what a DHCP server is, then I think you have a lot more reading to do before you even think about setting up your own server.
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Interresting observation, if anyone could tell me why I need to know what a DHCP server is in order to run a web server I would be most interrested, especially since web servers in general have a static IP and do not use DHCP at all. |
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
7528 Posts |
Posted - 19 February 2003 : 03:41:06
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If you look at the original context of the message then it works HuwR
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Of course, if you screw up your installation and accidentally install a DHCP server that points outward, they'll find you and probably disconnect you.
I believe it was just an example of how things could go wrong when setting your own server up etc along with an example of one way an ISP may find out your running servers within their Network if your on a TOS that would normally not allow it. |
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Alfred
Senior Member
USA
1527 Posts |
Posted - 19 February 2003 : 11:03:38
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I am wondering what it would take to run my own server?
Does that look like I was ready to jump into the venture?
It just struck me as odd to suggest deeper investigation BEFORE weighing the basic pros and cons.
At any rate, I would not consider being in conflict with the TOS of any ISP I may choose, so "detection" would not be an issue. |
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