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LanKuchang
Junior Member

Malaysia
120 Posts

Posted - 06 January 2003 :  18:18:06  Show Profile  Send LanKuchang an AOL message
stumble on this site about GIF copyright stuff.
http://burnallgifs.org/

can someone shed a light on "contributory infringement" that affect us?
more here..
http://www.smartisans.com/burn_all_gifs.htm

laser
Advanced Member

Australia
3859 Posts

Posted - 06 January 2003 :  18:54:18  Show Profile
Scroll down to "About burnallgifs.org" and read.
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LanKuchang
Junior Member

Malaysia
120 Posts

Posted - 06 January 2003 :  19:05:28  Show Profile  Send LanKuchang an AOL message
yup..
CNET new.com has it clearer.
http://news.com.com/2100-1023-239414.html?legacy=cnet&tag=st.ne.1002.tgif.1005-200-1713278?st.ne.fd.gif.f

are they still active pursuing this matter?

it says -- expire in 2003. so no more trouble?


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Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 06 January 2003 :  19:19:17  Show Profile
Beware of geeks bearing gifs!

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Nikkol
Forum Moderator

USA
6907 Posts

Posted - 06 January 2003 :  19:25:38  Show Profile

--Christmas
  |
  --mom.gif
  |
  --dad.gif
  |
  --brother.gif

--> gifs under the Christmas tree

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TestMagic
Senior Member

USA
1568 Posts

Posted - 06 January 2003 :  20:15:16  Show Profile  Visit TestMagic's Homepage
LOL, Nikkol! I wouldn't have gotten it without the answer!!

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4116 Posts

Posted - 07 January 2003 :  00:04:54  Show Profile
Why burn GIFs and not the patent office itself?

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TestMagic
Senior Member

USA
1568 Posts

Posted - 07 January 2003 :  02:36:00  Show Profile  Visit TestMagic's Homepage
Do you guys remember that post the guy made a while ago about the US Patent Office giving a patent to the "revolutionary" new technique of using a laser pointer to get cats to jump around? I thought it was a spoof, but sure enough, I went to the US Patent Office website and saw that it was indeed true. Something definitely wrong with that!!!

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4116 Posts

Posted - 07 January 2003 :  03:39:15  Show Profile
quote:

"revolutionary" new technique of using a laser pointer to get cats to jump around?


My mistake not to register the technique with the patent office. I've been using this method for five years now. I could be rich because every person who make his/her cat to play with laser dot on the floor had to pay me . What a nonsence!

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Roland
Advanced Member

Netherlands
9335 Posts

Posted - 07 January 2003 :  03:51:42  Show Profile
The main problem is that if you're going to have to pay to use GIF images, PNG files aren't really a solution (but neither are BMPs or JPGs, not even mentioning how useless SWF is). The file size of PNG files is most of the time quite a bit larger than a comparable GIF file, especially when you use 32-bit (high quality) PNG files, which have the problem that transparency isn't handled well in browsers (yet?).

I've looked into using PNG files instead of GIFs when I did my last redesign for FrutZle.com, but decided against it mainly because of the sizes of the files. Maybe with the next browser "generation" PNG will get better support, and hopefully more and more people will get broadband internet connections, solving the problems there are at this moment.
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LanKuchang
Junior Member

Malaysia
120 Posts

Posted - 07 January 2003 :  05:19:35  Show Profile  Send LanKuchang an AOL message
so what now?
if unisys have their way.. we got to pay USD5,000 or use PNG?

what this all means?
quote:
Now Unisys is taking final advantage of its patent, which is set to expire in the United States in 2003. At the same time, alternative formats, such as PNG, may be closer than ever to winning broad acceptance.


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Roland
Advanced Member

Netherlands
9335 Posts

Posted - 07 January 2003 :  05:52:37  Show Profile
quote:
Last August, the company sparked protests across the Web by announcing that individuals running noncommercial sites might in some cases be required to license its GIF technology for a $5,000 fee.

There doesn't seem to be anything you could do about it if they would want to go after you, except dropping all GIF files and using something else. I don't think it'll happen very often though, and even if they do want to get some money in their pockets, they'll go after large sites, not small ones.
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ruirib
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Portugal
26364 Posts

Posted - 07 January 2003 :  07:50:59  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
I use JPEG images for most of my stuff. Don't really see much problems with them, but then I don't do high quality graphics ...


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davemaxwell
Access 2000 Support Moderator

USA
3020 Posts

Posted - 07 January 2003 :  07:57:18  Show Profile  Visit davemaxwell's Homepage  Send davemaxwell an AOL message  Send davemaxwell an ICQ Message  Send davemaxwell a Yahoo! Message
The only time that applies is if you use an non-licensed software package to create the images. So if you use photoshop or paint shop pro or corel to make your images, you would be totally legal. The patent is totally unenforceable because they are not going to try to take every holder of gif images because there would be no way of determining how the image was created....

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Carefree
Advanced Member

Philippines
4222 Posts

Posted - 07 January 2003 :  08:06:48  Show Profile
Non-commercial sites paying $5000? Every personal homepage? What a greedy bunch of $@$#@$. Give me a break. If you read a related story, you'll see this quote:

quote:

Revenue for the third quarter of 2002 declined 3% to $1.33 billion from $1.38 billion a year ago.


Maybe this is their "fourth quarter initiative" that is supposed to be announced on Jan 21.

Edited by - Carefree on 07 January 2003 08:07:35
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator

New Zealand
7528 Posts

Posted - 07 January 2003 :  08:10:14  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
quote:
but then I don't do high quality graphics ...
You can't do quality work with GIF anyway, too many limitations with the format.

PNG is starting to gain acceptance now, all version 6 browsers support it I believe.

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