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pweighill
Junior Member

United Kingdom
453 Posts

Posted - 12 August 2002 :  15:44:56  Show Profile
Were there any plans to make v3.4 more HTML standards compliant? If so then which version were you aiming for?

There are a copule of items that could be addressed to reduce the messages when checking with the http://validator.w3.org site.

You could add type="text/javascript" to the <script> tags. (See http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/interact/scripts.html#edef-SCRIPT for details)

Also a lot of the <img> tags have align="absmiddle". What does absmiddle do? Can middle be used instead?

OneWayMule
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Posted - 12 August 2002 :  15:57:29  Show Profile  Visit OneWayMule's Homepage  Send OneWayMule an ICQ Message
quote:
Also a lot of the <img> tags have align="absmiddle". What does absmiddle do? Can middle be used instead?


http://www.idocs.com/tags/images/_IMG_ALIGN.html

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Roland
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Posted - 12 August 2002 :  16:00:43  Show Profile
There's use of <b> and </b> tags aswell as <center> and </center> tags. Seeing how those are still there, the forums won't comply with the latest standards, which we shouldn't expect because of all the other things that have already been done (IMO).

Can't give a more definitive answer than that though.
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RichardKinser
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USA
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Posted - 12 August 2002 :  16:15:11  Show Profile
No, there weren't any plans to make v3.4 HTML standards compliant.

absmiddle produces the cleanest alignment for text that is right next to an image. Netscape 4.7x doesn't like it, but that's something I can live with.
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RichardKinser
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USA
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Posted - 12 August 2002 :  16:17:17  Show Profile
Because this forum's output is dynamic, and because of the use of variables in the code, it will NEVER pass the validator at:

http://validator.w3.org/

Which is also something I can live with. I would rather have nicely formatted pages than "Standards Compliant" pages that don't look as nice.
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snaayk
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USA
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Posted - 12 August 2002 :  16:17:42  Show Profile  Visit snaayk's Homepage  Send snaayk an AOL message  Send snaayk an ICQ Message  Send snaayk a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by RichardKinser

Netscape 4.7x doesn't like it, but that's something I can live with.



What does NS 4.7 like? I quit worrying about 4.7....my visitors will have to upgrade or go elsewhere
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pweighill
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 August 2002 :  16:30:42  Show Profile
It's usually quite a bit of work to make it go through the validator but it's still nice to try and reduce the "problems" to a minmium.

The change to the <script> tag wouldn't take much to do.

Edited by - pweighill on 12 August 2002 16:31:59
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RichardKinser
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USA
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Posted - 12 August 2002 :  16:38:03  Show Profile
so your saying change:

<script language="javascript">


to:

<script type="text/javascript">
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GauravBhabu
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Posted - 12 August 2002 :  17:11:37  Show Profile
<Script type="text/javascript"> will not give error when validating HTML at W3C.

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pweighill
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 August 2002 :  17:28:06  Show Profile
Change:
<script language="javascript">

to
<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">

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Doug G
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USA
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Posted - 12 August 2002 :  19:32:20  Show Profile
If the forum displays properly in all the targeted browsers, does it matter if the validator gives errors or not?

my favorite validator is users.org

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VodkaFish
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USA
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Posted - 12 August 2002 :  22:55:47  Show Profile  Send VodkaFish an AOL message  Send VodkaFish an ICQ Message  Send VodkaFish a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by RichardKinser

I would rather have nicely formatted pages than "Standards Compliant" pages that don't look as nice.
Hear, hear! W3C may have "standards", but if something works well (in almost all browsers) and looks nicer, it's the way to go.

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D3mon
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Posted - 14 August 2002 :  10:28:34  Show Profile  Visit D3mon's Homepage
I had been working on 'converting' v.3.3.0.3 to XHTML and was doing very well up until the inc_functions code part where it corrects the posted code and puts in the appropriate fonts/colours/smilies etc. I gave up then cause I screwed up the all the post-formatting stuff!


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laser
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Australia
3859 Posts

Posted - 14 August 2002 :  17:13:47  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by pweighill

It's usually quite a bit of work to make it go through the validator but it's still nice to try and reduce the "problems" to a minmium.

The change to the <script> tag wouldn't take much to do.



Aren't most of these problems caused by deprecation ? I get sick of trying to keep up with what's currently "in" and what's been deprecated.

I'm with Richard - if it works in all targeted browsers then so what ? Some browsers don't even recognise all the latest HTML rules.
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Maarten
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Netherlands
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Posted - 14 August 2002 :  17:40:00  Show Profile  Visit Maarten's Homepage  Send Maarten an ICQ Message
quote:
Originally posted by Doug G

If the forum displays properly in all the targeted browsers, does it matter if the validator gives errors or not?

my favorite validator is users.org



Well i don't know exactly how things are now but it didn't parse the html tables correctly in Opera. May be that has been fixed. But i'd sure check the forum in some browser versions (most important mozilla, netscape 4.xx and Opera).

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@tomic
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USA
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Posted - 14 August 2002 :  18:19:17  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage  Send @tomic an ICQ Message
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most important mozilla, netscape 4.xx and Opera


Just consider IE an "also ran" and skip it?

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