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Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 14 August 2002 :  18:55:22  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by @tomic

quote:
most important mozilla, netscape 4.xx and Opera


Just consider IE an "also ran" and skip it?

@tomic




And you know, I've grown to hate the word "deprecated". Surely there is some other words that could be used to describe something that "works now but maybe not in the future and we'd rather you didn't use it"?

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Nathan
Help Moderator

USA
7664 Posts

Posted - 14 August 2002 :  20:18:22  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage
quote:
Some browsers don't even recognise all the latest HTML rules.

And there are some browsers that dont do old school either. . . . Konqueror for eample.

Nathan Bales
CoreBoard | Active Users Download
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GauravBhabu
Advanced Member

4288 Posts

Posted - 14 August 2002 :  20:41:19  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by RichardKinser

Because this forum's output is dyanmic, and because of the use of variables in the code, it will NEVER pass the validator at:

http://validator.w3.org/



I am afraid that is not the case.

CSS and HTML4.01 Compilant Snitz Forum . ForumSquare . Rakesh Jain

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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin

USA
16655 Posts

Posted - 14 August 2002 :  20:52:07  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by GauravBhabu

quote:
Originally posted by RichardKinser

Because this forum's output is dynamic, and because of the use of variables in the code, it will NEVER pass the validator at:

http://validator.w3.org/



I am afraid that is not the case.

so how do you handle things such as:

Error: unknown entity "TOPIC_ID"
Error: unknown entity "REPLY_ID"
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Nathan
Help Moderator

USA
7664 Posts

Posted - 14 August 2002 :  21:27:43  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage
What was the HTML that generated those?

I dont know how you even got that far, theres no document type declairation.

Nathan Bales
CoreBoard | Active Users Download
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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin

USA
16655 Posts

Posted - 14 August 2002 :  21:35:11  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan

What was the HTML that generated those?

I dont know how you even got that far, theres no document type declairation.

I added one and ran the test. The errors are from the QueryString in the links.
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GauravBhabu
Advanced Member

4288 Posts

Posted - 14 August 2002 :  21:37:03  Show Profile
How the variables will matter to HTML Parser? I have this page Here being generated dynamically and with all kind of variables, Constants, Functions , Subs and Completely written in ASP. It is validated as 4.01 HTML Strict.

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GauravBhabu
Advanced Member

4288 Posts

Posted - 14 August 2002 :  21:40:06  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by RichardKinser

quote:
Originally posted by Nathan

What was the HTML that generated those?

I dont know how you even got that far, theres no document type declairation.

I added one and ran the test. The errors are from the QueryString in the links.




I see, for that the query String will need to be build as

page.asp?Topic_ID=1& amp;Page=1

Use & amp; instead of &. (Ignore the space in & amp;)

CSS and HTML4.01 Compilant Snitz Forum . ForumSquare . Rakesh Jain

It is difficult to IMPROVE on Perfection, There is no harm in Keep Trying.

Prayer Of Forgiveness
"I forgive all living beings. May all living beings forgive me!
I cherish the friendliness towards all and harbour enmity towards none." -- Aavashyaka Sutra(Translated)
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Nathan
Help Moderator

USA
7664 Posts

Posted - 14 August 2002 :  21:58:12  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage
I've seen a running YABBse pass the 4.01 standard and CSS 2.0 standard.

So theres no way you can say it wont pass because its dynamically generated.

Nathan Bales
CoreBoard | Active Users Download
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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin

USA
16655 Posts

Posted - 14 August 2002 :  22:08:14  Show Profile
Ok, I'll rephrase what I said then.

I have NEVER seen a site using a Snitz Forums 2000 forum. pass the validator at:

http://validator.w3.org/

Does that sit better with y'all?
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GauravBhabu
Advanced Member

4288 Posts

Posted - 14 August 2002 :  22:11:22  Show Profile
It is lot of effort initially, but once you get used, it is easy.
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D3mon
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1685 Posts

Posted - 15 August 2002 :  06:06:59  Show Profile  Visit D3mon's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by RichardKinser

I have NEVER seen a site using a Snitz Forums 2000 forum. pass the validator at:

http://validator.w3.org/

Does that sit better with y'all?



Wahey! the challenge is set...


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Maarten
Starting Member

Netherlands
22 Posts

Posted - 15 August 2002 :  07:37:06  Show Profile  Visit Maarten's Homepage  Send Maarten an ICQ Message
quote:
Originally posted by @tomic

quote:
most important mozilla, netscape 4.xx and Opera


Just consider IE an "also ran" and skip it?


It looks as though everybody is running IE here anyway.. You all look kind of surprised if people say the html doesn't parse correctly in all browsers.

If you make a forum this size and with so much possible users you SHOULD consider EVERY browser as a possible site viewer. And yes it's very well possible..

A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory.
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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin

USA
16655 Posts

Posted - 15 August 2002 :  12:45:43  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Maarten

quote:
Originally posted by Doug G

If the forum displays properly in all the targeted browsers, does it matter if the validator gives errors or not?

my favorite validator is users.org



Well i don't know exactly how things are now but it didn't parse the html tables correctly in Opera. May be that has been fixed. But i'd sure check the forum in some browser versions (most important mozilla, netscape 4.xx and Opera).

We always do.
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