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                      |  Posted - 23 February 2006 :  07:28:03       
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                      | Would it be possible to make this work without the user having to set [ w m v ] [ / w m v ] but just post a link? I don't think all of my users would understand how to figure out the format of the clip =) <
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                      |  Posted - 23 February 2006 :  07:40:38       
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                      | I think I could wait a few days =) 
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 - I would like to have the size (width x heigh and in Mb) in the post, would it be possible to get this automatically?
 - If I'm correct, the host of the movie only see the user's IP and not the forum IP?
 
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                | Karel BataJunior Member
 
   
 
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                      |  Posted - 23 February 2006 :  08:46:59       
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                      | Thanks Marcel.
 
 Looks like I'm going to have to become a serious webmaster
  unless someone can point me to somewhere that can do all this  I'll send a mail to forumco and suggest they take a look at this thread. 
 I'm not too worried about copyright Podge, I forsee the site as somewhere for filmakers to promote their own movies. At the moment setting up a site (that works!) is a bit of a dark art, and the few around are all over the place. The forum would aim to forge connections. There's an  article about new trends here if you're interested. And one of the most successful self-distribution sites here which I think will be of particular interest to Tribaliztic.
  
 I imagine my potential users to be at least reasonably computer savvy, anyway I'll provide a tutorial, and there'll be a forum category where they can discuss any problems (and moan about me!
  ) The relevance of that to the discussion here is: if frame size cannot be set automatically, is it not possible for the user to type it in themselves? After all (in my case) they will have made the movie themselves. 
 
 
  
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                | tribalizticSenior Member
 
     
 
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                      |  Posted - 23 February 2006 :  09:36:45       
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Karel Bata
 
 
 And one of the most successful self-distribution sites here which I think will be of particular interest to Tribaliztic.
  
 
 
 Heh, well.. I'm more into vehicles with 4 wheels but thanks anyway =)
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                      |  Posted - 24 February 2006 :  03:45:33       
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                      | One of my users report that the movie start automatically in FireFox, is it possible to have it start when the user click "play" as in IE? <
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                | MarcelGRetired Support Moderator
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 24 February 2006 :  04:32:30       
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                      | quote:Originally posted by tribaliztic
 Would it be possible to make this work without the user having to set [ w m v ] [ / w m v ] but just post a link? I don't think all of my users would understand how to figure out the format of the clip =)
 
 So, you'd want to turn EVERY link to a .WMV, .AVI, .MPG, .QT, .SWF, .WAV, .MP3 etc etc into an embedded version ? It sounds doable, but if you come to think of it, it doesn't sound very logical to do that, cause it will cause some unexpected behaviour when posting for instance a google link like this: http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&q=how+to+embed+.wmv ; even though .wmv at the end might indicate a Windows Media Video file, the url leads to a Google searchpage.
 
 One thing might be possible, for those who're handy with JavaScript ; autogenerate the correct media embedding code without using seperate tags : [media]url[/media].
 The JavaScript function would then determine the media type based on the extension, assuming the extension represents the correct mime-type.
 I've got no clue on how to do that, but perhaps someone with JS skills can make such a function. (some more perhaps usefull info here : http://www.pcurtis.com/media.htm )
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by tribaliztic
 - I would like to have the size (width x heigh and in Mb) in the post, would it be possible to get this automatically?
 
 Not possible, at least not if not inserting this information manually.
 The forum does not 'know' the media file. The media file isn't retrieved through the forum, but it is retrieved directly from the user's browser to the host that provides the media file.
 Unless the forum-host actually retrieves the file, analyzes it and stores that info somewhere in the db, you cannot retrieve the dimensions of the media file.
 
 
 quote:They'll see the forum (and the topic on the forum) as the referrer URL.Originally posted by tribaliztic
 - If I'm correct, the host of the movie only see the user's IP and not the forum IP?
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by tribaliztic
 One of my users report that the movie start automatically in FireFox, is it possible to have it start when the user click "play" as in IE?
 
 
 
 Can you specify with which video type he has this problem, and on which page (topic.asp or vid.asp) ?
 Whether or not autostart is used, is defined in the embedding.js file.
 If I'm not mistaking, FireFox ignores the <OBJECT> part of the tags, and only utilizes the <EMBED> tag.
 I've defined autostart the same for the OBJECT as well as the EMBED tag...so I'm wondering why this is happening. It might be a bug in FireFox.....<
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                | tribalizticSenior Member
 
     
 
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                      |  Posted - 24 February 2006 :  05:01:47       
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                      | quote:Originally posted by MarcelG
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by tribaliztic
 Would it be possible to make this work without the user having to set [ w m v ] [ / w m v ] but just post a link? I don't think all of my users would understand how to figure out the format of the clip =)
 
 So, you'd want to turn EVERY link to a .WMV, .AVI, .MPG, .QT, .SWF, .WAV, .MP3 etc etc into an embedded version ? It sounds doable, but if you come to think of it, it doesn't sound very logical to do that, cause it will cause some unexpected behaviour when posting for instance a google link like this: http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&q=how+to+embed+.wmv ; even though .wmv at the end might indicate a Windows Media Video file, the url leads to a Google searchpage.
 
 
 One thing might be possible, for those who're handy with JavaScript ; autogenerate the correct media embedding code without using seperate tags : [media]url[/media].
 The JavaScript function would then determine the media type based on the extension.
 I've got no clue on how to do that, but perhaps someone with JS skills can make such a function.
 
 
 //trib's comment
 That would be enough for me, as long as the users don't have to understand why their link won't show when they put wmv-tags around a qt-clip I don't care how it's solved =)
 //trib's comment
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by tribaliztic
 - I would like to have the size (width x heigh and in Mb) in the post, would it be possible to get this automatically?
 
 Not possible, at least not if not inserting this information manually.
 The forum does not 'know' the media file. The media file isn't retrieved through the forum, but it is retrieved directly from the user's browser to the host that provides the media file.
 Unless the forum-host actually retrieves the file, analyzes it and stores that info somewhere in the db, you cannot retrieve the dimensions of the media file.
 
 
 //trib's comment
 Okay, I can live with that =)
 //trib's comment
 
 
 quote:They'll see the forum (and the topic on the forum) as the referrer URL.Originally posted by tribaliztic
 - If I'm correct, the host of the movie only see the user's IP and not the forum IP?
 
 
 //trib's comment
 Ok, my site isn't THAT buzy but it would be better if they only saw the user's ip so that they won't shut me out if I take too much bandwidth =)
 //trib's comment
 
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by tribaliztic
 One of my users report that the movie start automatically in FireFox, is it possible to have it start when the user click "play" as in IE?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Can you specify with which video type he has this problem, and on which page (topic.asp or vid.asp) ?
 Whether or not autostart is used, is defined in the embedding.js file.
 If I'm not mistaking, FireFox ignores the <OBJECT> part of the tags, and only utilizes the <EMBED> tag.
 I've defined autostart the same for the OBJECT as well as the EMBED tag...so I'm wondering why this is happening. It might be a bug in FireFox.....
 
 
 
 //trib's comment
 It was a wmv-file and viewed via topic.asp. If you want I could try and get the version of FF from the user?
 //trib's comment
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                | Karel BataJunior Member
 
   
 
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                      |  Posted - 24 February 2006 :  05:02:54       
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                      | I have enormous problems playing video files within firefox (version 1.5.0.1). Quicktime is ok, but wmv files make firefox freeze up and force me to reboot completely. Anyone know the cure for that?
 
 And what do you think of the idea of getting the users to manually type in the move size? Maybe you could even automate the +10 for the control bar...
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                | MarcelGRetired Support Moderator
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 24 February 2006 :  05:22:09       
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                      | I'll have my user check out break.com and then I'll get back to you =) <
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                      |  Posted - 24 February 2006 :  07:09:14       
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                      | Plays once, then freezes. No-one else getting that? There must be a firefox forum somewhere...<
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                      |  Posted - 24 February 2006 :  07:26:13       
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                      | Ah... But it works fine for me otherwise. Are you getting freezes outside of Firefox? There must be a fix - I don't want to tell users to go back to using 9 to be able to use the site. 
 Heidi Klum made my IE crash...
  
 
 <edit> Of course! Microsoft have deliberately done it to stop the drift away from IE. Apple did the same when they hobbled the DirectDraw capabilty for windows users in Quicktime after 6.3.
 
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