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MarcelG
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Netherlands
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Posted - 24 February 2006 :  07:34:16  Show Profile  Visit MarcelG's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Podge

WMV files autostart in Firefox 1.5.0.1 for me too.

Marcel, I have YouTube code nearly finished. Should have it today sometime, just need to iron out a bug or two.

Great!!!
quote:
Originally posted by Podge
One question, why are there two similar functions in embedding.js ? e.g. EmbedFlash & EmbedFlashT
I've compared them and they look exactly the same. Am I missing something?
The functions without the T at the end are meant for the vid.asp page.
In the vid.asp page you can provide some extra things such as width, height and background color. These aren't available for the topic-embedding.
The Quicktime function doesn't use the posterimage on vid.asp, but starts loading the video right away.

Next to that you can change the way the media loads by changing the functions without the T. You can hardcode the autostart to 'false' or 'true' for instance.

So, different purposes, different functions.

Karel, as it is important for you to show the videos to a large community, it might be an idea to consider FLV playback of the videos, instead of original format.
This means you'll have to encode them from whatever format they are now into FLV format. You cán do that using GoogleVideo, but if I'm not mistaking there are some manual conversion tools out there.

EDIT: Yep; here's one: http://www.soft32.com/download_75736.html

With FLV, all your viewers need is the Flash plugin, which also works crossplatform (e.g. on Linux, MacOS etc).
In that case you'd be using the [flash][/flash] tags for embedding video.<

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Podge
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Posted - 24 February 2006 :  08:43:17  Show Profile  Send Podge an ICQ Message  Send Podge a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote

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tribaliztic
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Posted - 24 February 2006 :  08:48:50  Show Profile  Visit tribaliztic's Homepage  Send tribaliztic an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
I vote for icons and javascript! =) (if you mean that the user only paste his link in between [media][/media]-tags and the script does the rest?)
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Podge
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Posted - 24 February 2006 :  08:54:56  Show Profile  Send Podge an ICQ Message  Send Podge a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, me too. If you don't mind Marcel I'll have a go at it today (while I have some spare time).
I'll need four icons from someone - Windows Media, QuickTime, Flash and youTube but I should be able to do the rest.<

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tribaliztic
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Posted - 24 February 2006 :  09:10:28  Show Profile  Visit tribaliztic's Homepage  Send tribaliztic an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
Wohoo!
Thanks alot guys!
I suppose we can't use the real logos on the icons, maybe "wmv" "qt" "flash"? But youtube I don't know =)
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Podge
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Posted - 24 February 2006 :  09:58:39  Show Profile  Send Podge an ICQ Message  Send Podge a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I'm sure that Microsoft, Apple & Macromedia, etc. have free icons you can use. youTube = http://www.youtube.com<

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tribaliztic
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Posted - 24 February 2006 :  10:04:31  Show Profile  Visit tribaliztic's Homepage  Send tribaliztic an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
Ah, didn't think about that.. Offcourse they have free icons!
I know what youtube is but couldn't think of any short name for a button =)
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Karel Bata
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Posted - 24 February 2006 :  10:09:43  Show Profile  Visit Karel Bata's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the heads up Marcel, but the way I envision the site is that I would leave it to the posters
(the filmakers) to make sure their videos worked properly. I'm not going to get into re-coding dozens
(hundreds?) of video files. And if I tell people they have to code to a particular format it'll probably
put them off (coding for the net is tricky enough as it is) and I won't then manage to attract sufficient
posters to get to that 'critical mass' a forum needs.

Are we talking at cross purposes here? I have no intention of hosting anybody's film files
(except my own).
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Karel Bata
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Posted - 24 February 2006 :  10:32:10  Show Profile  Visit Karel Bata's Homepage  Reply with Quote
As for these icons - I think it would be good if they could also be user definable, so a poster
could then post an image that would be a live link to a file he (or someone else) held on another server.
Like www.break.com does.<

Edited by - Karel Bata on 24 February 2006 10:45:17
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MarcelG
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Posted - 24 February 2006 :  10:32:10  Show Profile  Visit MarcelG's Homepage  Reply with Quote
great!!!! It seems this mod is rocketing out of the atmoshpere at the moment!!

GoogleVideo & RealPlayer content would be great, but Podge, don't you think it would be doable to construct the [media][/media] tag, that constructs the appropriate tags based on the extension of the URL or the format of the URL (like youtube and googlevideo) entered inbetween the tags?
In that way we'd have the general [media][/media] tag, that enables playback of all URLs that have the correct URL-format for the mediatype they refer.
If an extension or URL format is 'unrecognizable', you could do it manually via the content-type specific tags.

Karel, indeed, I thought you'd be hosting the actual videos. If that's not the case, there's not much you can do about it, except for accepting the fact that some browsers and some video players are buggy. <

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Karel Bata
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Posted - 24 February 2006 :  10:35:02  Show Profile  Visit Karel Bata's Homepage  Reply with Quote

Ah, you missed my edit on page 3 here:
    "Of course! Microsoft have deliberately done it to stop the drift away from IE.
    Apple did the same when they hobbled the DirectDraw capabilty for windows
    users in Quicktime after 6.3."
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Podge
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Posted - 24 February 2006 :  10:55:30  Show Profile  Send Podge an ICQ Message  Send Podge a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
don't you think it would be doable to construct the [media][/media] tag, that constructs the appropriate tags based on the extension of the URL or the format of the URL (like youtube and googlevideo) entered inbetween the tags?


Should be.<

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MarcelG
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Posted - 24 February 2006 :  11:22:47  Show Profile  Visit MarcelG's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Podge ; does this page work for you?
http://oxle.com/topic.asp?tid=3633
I'm behind a proxy that seems to be caching the previous version of embedding.js....<

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Podge
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Posted - 24 February 2006 :  11:30:37  Show Profile  Send Podge an ICQ Message  Send Podge a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
It doesn't work for me. Couldn't see anything wrong either.

I have the javascript functions finsihed for the post icons. Google Video next.<

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MarcelG
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Posted - 24 February 2006 :  11:31:12  Show Profile  Visit MarcelG's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Never mind ; I wasn't using embedding.js but embeddingv2.js ...updated the wrong js file.

your addition works great!!!!!!<

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Edited by - MarcelG on 24 February 2006 11:31:51
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