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laser
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 Posted - 25 October 2005 : 03:05:23
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| so v.4 dev hasn't even started yet. I still think items like "complete rewrite" are just crazy.< |
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AnonJr
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Posted - 25 October 2005 : 09:32:16
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Originally posted by laser
I still think items like "complete rewrite" are just crazy.
I don't want to spark another arguement, but I would like to respectfully disagree. You can only continue to rehash the same code for so long. Sooner or later you need to go back to square one. Especially if you are planning big changes to the core operation. I've had several programs where it was more benificial (and time saving in the long run) to start over than to keep trying to change what I had already had to meet the new needs.
But if I'm wrong in that, I'm wrong. If the Dev team doesn't see it that way, that's fine too. I'll still be here. (for good or bad is another question  ) Its just my respectful, humble, and possibly incorrect opinion.< |
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laser
Advanced Member
Australia
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Posted - 25 October 2005 : 09:39:42
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Don't worry, I respect your view  Just that we won't agree on every thing.< |
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kwhipp
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - 25 October 2005 : 11:11:25
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| This is just a history question, I'm not trying to spark anything. Wasn't version 3.4 a rewrite? Or, does this take us into semantics as to what constitutes a rewrite?< |
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AnonJr
Moderator
United States
5768 Posts |
Posted - 25 October 2005 : 11:11:48
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I just wanted to make it very clear that it was a respectful dissention. Its hard getting all that non-verbal stuff into plain text...
Just out of curiosity, why is it that you feel a complete re-write is not nessecary?< |
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-gary
Development Team Member
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Posted - 25 October 2005 : 12:00:53
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Originally posted by MarkJH
Well, if a Dev Team member is adding suggestions, I'd imagine development is still at a very early stage.
The team is focusing on getting V4 out in a usable state. It's feature set was established long ago, so there won't be any major advancements in it other than what has already been promised. The suggestions here are a good enough place to start collecting ideas for a 4.something or V5 release IMHO, so I contributed.< |
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laser
Advanced Member
Australia
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Posted - 25 October 2005 : 17:18:15
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why is it that you feel a complete re-write is not nessecary?
I just think there are more features that need adding to bring the product up to standard rather than just redoing/refining what we have now
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Wasn't version 3.4 a rewrite?
I had forgotten about that, and from a methodology point of view - YES!
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It's feature set was established long ago
That's what I was looking for. So we're looking further afield than v.4.0.0< |
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AnonJr
Moderator
United States
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Posted - 25 October 2005 : 18:18:43
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Originally posted by laser
I just think there are more features that need adding to bring the product up to standard rather than just redoing/refining what we have now
I can see that. I was working under the assumption that new features would be a part of the rewrite. I find that you can only cobble so much before you need to start afresh.
Whatever happens, I look forward to it.  < |
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Da_Stimulator
DEV Team Forum Moderator
USA
3373 Posts |
Posted - 25 October 2005 : 23:53:38
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... Actually, just to make things clear.
This is a Wish List.
Chances are, whatever it is I might do with this collected information, it's most likely not going to appear within the next release.
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oh yeah, and on that rewrite note.
Switching to CSS would basically itself require a rewrite, or close to it anyway.< |
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Shaggy
Support Moderator
Ireland
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Posted - 26 October 2005 : 07:59:55
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And, if we are going to rewrite then, maybe, it might be worth looking into an AJAX driven interface. Just a suggestion; been looking into it the past few days and loving what I've seen so far.
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Podge
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 October 2005 : 10:40:22
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V4 dev is not just starting, it is already done, it just needs some refining, it will not contain any of the items on these "wish" lists, the content and direction of V4 was decided a long long time ago and is not likely to change, over and above the internationalisation it will contain the userfields mod and timezones as these were required for internationalisation, and included in the v4 codeby Bozden. It MAY contain the CSS mod as some of this has been done already in the v4 code and switching to CSS does NOT require a rewrite of the code.
but feel free to wish what you want for v5< |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 October 2005 : 10:47:48
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| AJAX is not that clever when it comes to accessibility guidelines which many of us have to adhere to, plus it will also open the "back button" can of worms which many users complain about when navigating "dynamic web applications"< |
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AnonJr
Moderator
United States
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Posted - 26 October 2005 : 10:58:58
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you'll love this movie - http://files.vbulletin.com/3.5/ajax.html
That's neat. I would love to do something like that with the intranet site for the hospital...
I wouldn't have the accessability issues, but a lot of the staff here live and die by the back button. If that jacked up the works it would be a major issue...
Still worth looking into a little more.< |
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Shaggy
Support Moderator
Ireland
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Posted - 26 October 2005 : 11:24:23
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Originally posted by HuwR
it will also open the "back button" can of worms which many users complain about when navigating "dynamic web applications"
Ay, have seen that mentioned in the pros and cons arguments for AJAX and I'm definitely one of those strongly against doing anything that prevents a site or browser from functioning in the way they expect but for things like locking topics or even quick reply, it shouldn't be such a big issue.
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