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sr_erick
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 Posted - 02 September 2005 : 11:12:17
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Originally posted by AnonJr
I.E. CSS, Classes/objects, and taking the use of Functions/Subs and "kicking it up a notch."
We all seem to agree on this in some way/shape/form. Before we get too lost in the details of implementation, we probably ought to figure out who is going to work on it and how we'll plan out/agree on the roadmap/implementation for the next version.
I agree with you. As well as these, maybe some database standardization. We should really look at the database structure as and get things up to date. There are some things I really don't like about that either. I feel we must sacrifice some compatibility of systems and do things the right way. We need to set up the proper relationships, foreign keys, and I stress...the right data types for each field. This means, if it's a date column, make it a date column. Get rid of the silly string date/time. Also, we should make sure the separate topics table and replies table is the right approach. I mean, should the entire content of a topic be in the topics table or should the first post (the topic starter of that topic) be a reply in the replies table to that topic? I don't really like that the topic text for that topic resides in the topics table. I think it should be a reply that is linked to that topic and the topics table should only hold information unique to that topic and nothing more.
Either way, I wouldn't mind at getting something going either. It seems there is a lot of interest into bringing this up to the 21st century and I'm all for it.< |
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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 September 2005 : 11:22:14
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| why should we sacrifice compatability, that is what Snitz is about, not every one can use MSSQL or MYSQL and are limited to just access. If all you want to do is maon and gripe about the current design and layout, why not just **** of and do your own suitable just for you.< |
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MarkJH
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-gary
Development Team Member
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Posted - 02 September 2005 : 13:38:06
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That would be the 1998 attitude I mentioned above.
To answer Huw, people like Snitz, they like the community and they want the package to grow along with the rest of the world. MySQL hosts are a dime a dozen and can be had for $3 these days. Trying to be compatible with everything, including Access, is one of the reason Snitz is behind the times. Everyone could go **** off and write their own forum, but then what was the point of putting time into the Snitz community in the first place? When 90% of the vocal users of Snitz keep asking for progress and change, maybe it's the other 10% that need to **** off.
Either way, not my decision. If the powers that be decide to redirect the development, I'm fully behind it. It'll save me a lot of work on the fork I've been working on. If whoever it may be wants input, I'd gladly hand over the parts I've been working on like templating system, DBA layer and file upload system.< |
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AnonJr
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Posted - 02 September 2005 : 14:35:15
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I'll give my thoughts on why I think we still need to support Access later...
The problem we are running into now is that this is starting to turn astray like the last few times this has been brought up - we finally start making some progress, then get to bickering about details.
We aren't at a details point yet.
We need the Dev. team to be assembled, gather what we all think, and let the small group of developers hash out the details. Some of our features/desires/etc. will make it, some won't. If what you really wanted didn't make it, then MOD it in!< |
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Nathan
Help Moderator
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Posted - 02 September 2005 : 15:12:41
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Ok, this is not the place or time to antagonize a flamewar. 
I will say that the cogs have started turning in the invisible world of admins and moderators. Give us a few days to sort ourselves out, then we can bring the community in on where we stand. In the mean time, its ok to have discussions about where you all would like to see Snitz go, but lets try to avoid the finger pointing.< |
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AnonJr
Moderator
United States
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Posted - 02 September 2005 : 15:22:59
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Originally posted by Nathan
Ok, this is not the place or time to antagonize a flamewar.
I will say that the cogs have started turning in the invisible world of admins and moderators. Give us a few days to sort ourselves out, then we can bring the community in on where we stand. In the mean time, its ok to have discussions about where you all would like to see Snitz go, but lets try to avoid the finger pointing.
Sounds reasonable. I anxiously await news.< |
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin
Portugal
26364 Posts |
Posted - 02 September 2005 : 17:00:13
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You were certainly wrong, sr_erick. I wouldn't write what Huw wrote, but when we reply to someone who gave as much as he did to this community, you'd be sure to consider that before writing what you wrote. I usually stay away from this kind of posts, but I couldn't simply stand by watching while you wrote that about Huw.
There are still people in charge of Snitz. You can have a team break away and start a new forum code, but that won't be Snitz. So stay cool and do as Nathan suggested.< |
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sr_erick
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 02 September 2005 : 17:06:24
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Davio, I'm not here to make enemies with anyone. I don't wish to bash anyone either. I am simply pointing out some of the qualities that I see "unfit and unhealthy". That is all. I do take back what I said at that time of him doing nothing, because he has done a lot. I guess I've been blinded by more recent events and it finally built up to what I said above.
My post was to point out reference of that things that have been going on the last couple of years but like I said, it came off as harsh when I came back an hour later to look again. Please forgive me. I really do not want to see the Snitz project die.
I've been around here a long time, like many of you. We have all come to know each other and that is a good thing. Let us not wreck what we have, instead lets work together and make something new and good for all people.
I agree in the deletion of my last few posts. Please spare us all anymore trouble. If I have a problem in the future, I'll be sure to handle it differently.< |
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laser
Advanced Member
Australia
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Posted - 02 September 2005 : 17:43:35
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I haven't really been reading this thread, but I have been doing some work on this :
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If and when Snitz is upgraded, I would like to see "Active Topics" give the user a chance to go to the first new post since their last visit in each forum.
It's hard to use as a guest, but if you go to www.v8central.com you should see what I refer to as "the thin red line" that should mark the first new reply since your last visit. It wouldn't be too hard to add a link into the Active Topics page, BUT the code only works on new posts, not editted ones so there is still a few bugs to iron out.< |
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Panhandler
Average Member
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Posted - 06 September 2005 : 10:16:35
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Originally posted by HuwR
why should we sacrifice compatability, that is what Snitz is about, not every one can use MSSQL or MYSQL and are limited to just access. . .
Aye, maestro. Agreed.
You're preaching to the choir now.
Beauty is often found in simplicity.
I would hope that not be forgotten in a move toward Snitz on Steroids.
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AnonJr
Moderator
United States
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Posted - 06 September 2005 : 10:21:27
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Database discussions et al aside, any news yet from "the invisible world of admins and moderators?"
Just a polite inquiry...
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Originally posted by AnonJr
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Originally posted by Nathan
Ok, this is not the place or time to antagonize a flamewar.
I will say that the cogs have started turning in the invisible world of admins and moderators. Give us a few days to sort ourselves out, then we can bring the community in on where we stand. In the mean time, its ok to have discussions about where you all would like to see Snitz go, but lets try to avoid the finger pointing.
Sounds reasonable. I anxiously await news.
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin
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AnonJr
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Posted - 06 September 2005 : 12:57:56
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Ranko
Junior Member
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Posted - 15 September 2005 : 04:37:47
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| Just wanted to give, a late, shout out that if Snitz v.Future is moving to CSS I'd volunteer for that job.< |
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