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Shaggy
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 Posted - 01 September 2005 : 05:37:33
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Whatever it is decided the next version of Snitz should be (at the moment, internationalised), might I suggest that, while work continues with it, a few unofficial deev teams are put together to start work on other projects such as CSS/XHTML, .NET, etc. When v4 is completed, hopefully these teams will have progressed far enough with their respective projects that the main dev team can then jump in and easily integrate their work into their current version. Working this way, future realeases should be a lot quicker to come about and it gives those of us in the community who want to see and help Snitz move forward a chance to put our money where our mouths are and give back to a project which has given so much.
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sr_erick
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Posted - 01 September 2005 : 10:53:25
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I kind of agree with -gary. While I don't mind the .NET structure, I don't see it fit to branch of into that. I don't see it fit to go to php, or any other common web language out there. There are already so many existing forum packages in these languages it doesn't make sense. I am not a fan of sticking with classic ASP too much either but I think it would be a better choice being this is Snitz. My proposal is to create a forum package out of something like Python or Ruby. Using ruby you could use the Ruby on Rails architecture, ajax, the whole works. These are very powerful and object oriented languages. They would provide fast speed, stability, and everyone here with some more variety in their programming knowledge. Sure, they will not be supported 100% by all hosts, on all platforms, and have their quirks but I believe that the "being different" part is what a lot of people out there are looking for.
Just my opinion. If development does continue with vb, I do suggest a COMPLETE rewrite with some heavy code standardizations. There's a lot of new things you can do with asp and sql that we didn't know before or wouldn't use because of compatibility. Leave compatibility to a few main platforms and forget the rest. They can use an old version.
As for my own forum. I regularly see what new features the competitors are adding on and if I like them, I code them up. These are mostly hacks, as there is no real standard way of adding these things. I keep up with them, but that's it. It's hard to extend the current application at times and every time I add something I worry about it getting slower and slower.< |
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Davio
Development Team Member
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Posted - 01 September 2005 : 14:12:53
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Thanks Mike for stepping in. 
So what's the next step? Huwr, Richard? Let's take some of the ideas and run with it. Work out a roadmap, and get moving.
I would also think we need some new members on the development team.< |
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AnonJr
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Posted - 01 September 2005 : 17:34:22
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Originally posted by Nathan
A class based archtecture in VB Script.
You might want to try starting by answering the meaning of life. It would be easier I think.
Acctually, you'd be surprized. I've come across a few articles and have started using it in my regular development at the hospital - mostly because I'm not allowed to install compiled components (another story, another time).
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I nominate Shaggy and Marcelgoertz
For what its worth, I'll back that.
Where and when will we start to put together a roadmap and decide what ideas will/won't make it?
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MarkJH
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Posted - 01 September 2005 : 20:21:53
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I'd love to see d3mon's work incorporated into the next generation of Snitz, whatever it may be. His dedication to a CSS-based Snitz code is more than admirable.
Whatever happens though, some kind of progress needs to be made, sooner rather than later.< |
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Shaggy
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Posted - 02 September 2005 : 05:36:29
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I've got to throw d3mon's name in the hat for the same reasons Mark posted above, he was the very man I was thinking of to head up the CSS dev team when making my last post.
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Shaggy
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Posted - 02 September 2005 : 05:53:47
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Thanks for the nominations, by the way, gave me that nice fuzzy feeling I needed to get me through another day of cr@p with marketing! 
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AnonJr
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Posted - 02 September 2005 : 08:03:28
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Originally posted by MarkJH
I'd love to see d3mon's work incorporated into the next generation of Snitz, whatever it may be. His dedication to a CSS-based Snitz code is more than admirable.
Whatever happens though, some kind of progress needs to be made, sooner rather than later.
Take what he's done with the CSS and (find) and add in Serevinus's Style Changer MOD and we'd be off to a wonderful start.< |
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sr_erick
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Posted - 02 September 2005 : 09:13:46
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| If anything is going to go through, I suggest someone looking into a good template system. In all honesty, a lot of things need to be re-written. It would be worth it to start over from scratch and try and abstract as much of the HTML from the ASP as well as abstract the SQL from the ASP. This way, when you change a style, you simply swap out the html files. When you switch a database platform, you simply swap out one or two SQL files and it's a done deal.< |
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MarcelG
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Posted - 02 September 2005 : 09:25:22
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Originally posted by Panhandler
I nominate Shaggy and Marcelgoertz 
 How many times do I have to explain that I'm not a programmer!! 
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AnonJr
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Posted - 02 September 2005 : 10:19:04
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Originally posted by sr_erick
If anything is going to go through, I suggest someone looking into a good template system. In all honesty, a lot of things need to be re-written. It would be worth it to start over from scratch and try and abstract as much of the HTML from the ASP as well as abstract the SQL from the ASP. This way, when you change a style, you simply swap out the html files. When you switch a database platform, you simply swap out one or two SQL files and it's a done deal.
I.E. CSS, Classes/objects, and taking the use of Functions/Subs and "kicking it up a notch."
We all seem to agree on this in some way/shape/form. Before we get too lost in the details of implementation, we probably ought to figure out who is going to work on it and how we'll plan out/agree on the roadmap/implementation for the next version.< |
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