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muzishun
Senior Member
United States
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 Posted - 25 July 2005 : 00:10:52
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| Why don't we try to get the Dev Mod Guide Project finished first? Rather than set a major task of cleaning some heavy duty MODs and incorporating them into base code, let's get to the point where all future MODs can be released with better code, since they'll all be using the same manual to understand what the base code already does. I know there are a lot of people interested in helping with this, and just from this thread, I'm sure people will be willing to lend a few hours help to get it up and flying.< |
Bill Parrott
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Co-Owner and Code Monkey, Eternal Second Designs (www.eternalsecond.com)
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Shadow69
Starting Member
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Posted - 25 July 2005 : 04:50:14
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what do you think about implementing a WikiWiki web application to continue on, and boost 'To Do' projects? wouldn't that be a good idea?
A good application to use would be Wikimedia meta-wiki, also see MediaWiki Uses but there is many others around.
Wikipedia has proven de facto to be an interesting collaborative enviroment where also unexperienced and incompetente users can give a little contribution, projects would earn a lot by this, expecially regarding documentation, MOD-ASP-code could be included also for development contribution and each older/original version of the code would still be available to everyone in the revision history.
Development in general, both ASP and documentation (including internationalization of Mods and translation), are time consuming tasks for a single person or a small group of people and this could both ease and speed up the tasks.
Everyone could just drop by and write a few lines now and then if they like, could be fun too!
Well these were just my humble thoughts, I just felt to contribute to this thread also, and i hope you like the idea 
edited for minor corrections< |
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AnonJr
Moderator
United States
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Posted - 25 July 2005 : 09:55:25
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I like the idea. It's something I've been looking into for implementation at the Hospital... though I need a good ASP-Based Wiki...
Anyway, I know I'm not the only person here who works overtime - but would contribute were it easier. I still think some cleaning up could be done in the code, but that may be because I'm doing that with a lot of my own projects. (Its amazing how quickly a fix here, and a fix there can jack with your code structure... )
Count me in. It looks like a good way to solve a great deal of the problems mentioned earlier in the post - and provide for a means of mentoring.
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Shadow69
Starting Member
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Posted - 28 July 2005 : 05:36:53
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Originally posted by AnonJr
I like the idea. It's something I've been looking into for implementation at the Hospital... though I need a good ASP-Based Wiki...
well i had something in mind, i had done a search before for an ASP based Wiki, at first i thought it wasn't good or stable enough, but as i did some more reading about it i see many are very happy with it. I haven't had the time to test it myself, i'll just drop some links in case anyone would like to give it a try:
We should bear in mind to check if it's functions would be fit for documentation and mod code implementation
http://www.openwiki.com/
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March 20, 2002: OpenWiki v0.78 SP1 is available. Features include:
SQL Server, MSDE, Oracle and My SQL support
Attachments
Embedded mode for use in other applications
Two way RSS support. See RDFSite Summary and e.g. All The News, BSD and Wiki Sites.
Support for aggregation of RSS feeds. See e.g. All The News/Aggregation and BSD/Aggregation.
Support for Scripting News, opening up a wealth of sources to be syndicated through Open Wiki. See examples Scripting News, Joel On Programming, etc.
Yes, it has now been 3 years since the last version came out. Some people think because it's "old" it can't be good anymore. Well, it has been good then, and it still is good for thousands of people and businesses around the world, every day. I think stability also has its charm.
http://www.openwiki.com/ow.asp?OpenWikiNG
although it is in in Alpha phase it's seems to be stable enough
it would be interesting to see how it compares to MediaWiki, although i'm quite more confident with MediaWiki because of it's implementation, i too wish it was asp but would php be a problem really? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Running_MediaWiki_on_Windows
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-gary
Development Team Member
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Posted - 28 July 2005 : 11:11:04
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| I like DokuWiki myself. It's PHP, but runs just fine under IIS. It's made for documentation and stores pages in flat txt files so setup and backup is simple.< |
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AnonJr
Moderator
United States
5768 Posts |
Posted - 28 July 2005 : 13:09:15
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I've been trying to test OpenWiki at the hospital, but I don't have the right version of VBScript on the webserver. This isn't supposed to be much of a problem, but I have to go through the IS department to get anything installed - and they don't like the idea of a programmer working outside of IS ...
If I get a chance, I may put it up on my own server tonight. I'll post a link if I do.
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cladon
Junior Member
Belgium
110 Posts |
Posted - 28 July 2005 : 18:15:16
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| Please stay on the Topic - the topic is about Mods for Snitz not about Wiki.< |
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bobby131313
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 28 July 2005 : 22:51:16
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There are things worse than having to twiddle the code to get it working. I have seen code where basic stuff like closing and releasing recordsets and DB connections were not done. And stuff like that can bring serious problems to a server.
You know, I just came here looking for this type of statement and it was in the first thread I looked at. I believe I am in this exact situation.
My forum has been going down every 7-10 days. My hosting company tells me its because the application pool is filling up due to db connections not closing. They tell me the server closes them automatically after twenty minutes but they're opening to fast. I had to upgrade my account to get my own app pool until I get it fixed but I have no idea where to start looking for this in the code.
I am about 90% sure this is due to a mod we installed. Not one of them worked right the first time with the instructions supplied. I gave up on the poll mod.< |
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laser
Advanced Member
Australia
3859 Posts |
Posted - 29 July 2005 : 01:26:25
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bobby131313, I understand what you are going through. I had an Access-based Snitz (db over 200Mb) and it was crashing every few hours. Lots of mod's, and custom code - both of which worked fine.
WEEKS of effort checking that every open had a close, and upgrading to SQL Server ... the problem is now fixed.
This is all part of the "certification" that all MODs should go through, IMHO. Basically to check that everything that should be done has really been done. Best practice has been followed, and that the MOD will basically WORK, not "sorta work sometimes, maybe".< |
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin
Portugal
26364 Posts |
Posted - 29 July 2005 : 04:40:31
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| Frankly speaking, I don't think the poll mod is done carelessly, quite the contrary. Davio is a member of the Dev team and the poll mod is one of the mod's with the most carefull installation instructions.< |
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laser
Advanced Member
Australia
3859 Posts |
Posted - 29 July 2005 : 05:34:40
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I think you're lost ruirib  < |
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin
Portugal
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taropatch
Average Member
USA
741 Posts |
Posted - 29 July 2005 : 09:42:11
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Been reading this thread with interest. I only have a hand full of mods installed because that's all I can bear when there is a version upgrade. Plus, I want to keep things easy for my users.
How would an "approved mods" list work? I guess there would need to be a mods team to evaluate, test and give a stamp of approval?
Probably hairy and not what the developers want to do, but I would support a paid version of snitz that came with basic mods preinstalled. Sorry to get side tracked.
Yes, officially approved mods... I'm all for it.
Ps. Davio has always gone way out of his way to help me with the poll mod and to help solve any problems I had. Thanks Davio!< |
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laser
Advanced Member
Australia
3859 Posts |
Posted - 29 July 2005 : 09:58:05
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ruirib, the way I read it the question was posed :
Q. Why don't we start a poll to get a list of base mods to install into the base code.
The answer was ...
Polls, avatars, private messages...
We've been here before though, haven't we?
Davio is one of the best MOD writers around. I can't see anyone complaining about the quality of the Poll Mod (& others).< |
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin
Portugal
26364 Posts |
Posted - 29 July 2005 : 10:56:15
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Sorry man, but you were the one who got a bit lost. Here is the post just before yours:
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Originally posted by bobby131313
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There are things worse than having to twiddle the code to get it working. I have seen code where basic stuff like closing and releasing recordsets and DB connections were not done. And stuff like that can bring serious problems to a server.
You know, I just came here looking for this type of statement and it was in the first thread I looked at. I believe I am in this exact situation.
My forum has been going down every 7-10 days. My hosting company tells me its because the application pool is filling up due to db connections not closing. They tell me the server closes them automatically after twenty minutes but they're opening to fast. I had to upgrade my account to get my own app pool until I get it fixed but I have no idea where to start looking for this in the code.
I am about 90% sure this is due to a mod we installed. Not one of them worked right the first time with the instructions supplied. I gave up on the poll mod.
I just replied to bobby's post, specially regarding the part in red. Just that.< |
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