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AnonJr
Moderator
United States
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 Posted - 29 July 2005 : 12:31:33
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Originally posted by cladon
Please stay on the Topic - the topic is about Mods for Snitz not about Wiki.
While I will admit to wandering a bit on my IS rant... the idea behind the Wiki discussion was to set up a means of vetting MODs / helping interested parties develop MODs / and/or documenting base code and MODs for help with implementation.
I do realize that there is a section of the forum for this. And it is a wonderful and helpful place. I've found many answers to problems that I have had there. Having said that, its good for those types of things - questions and answers. For documentation puroposes, detailed explanations of long chunks of code, and vetting out beta versions of MODs, its not the most ideal environment.
BTW, I didn't get it up on the server last night as we had some nasty thunderstorms where I live. Power was out, and all that fun. I'll try to work on it this weekend.
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Davio
Development Team Member
Jamaica
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Posted - 29 July 2005 : 14:09:01
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All this talk about Davio and the poll mod makes me want to jump in. lol 
Yeah, the poll mod needs updating. Especially when it comes to the installation part. SO I don't blame new users for having a troublesome time installing it.
Version 3 should solve that problem. But we're not talking about the poll mod right now.  < |
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laser
Advanced Member
Australia
3859 Posts |
Posted - 29 July 2005 : 19:31:50
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Sorry ruirib, missed that bit  < |
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Shadow69
Starting Member
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Posted - 01 August 2005 : 11:08:04
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Originally posted by Shadow69
We should bear in mind to check if it's functions would be fit for documentation and mod code implementation
that was the means of my posts, it is obvious, a personal humble suggestion on how to find a means to come out of a rant about mods. I may have gone ot, or probably let my discussion be deviating on 'what wiki to implement', sorry for that.
But there must be a way out of this rant? some way to cooperate with the supervision of authors and developers?
This is a very interesting conversation, but without anyone (me included) trying to shake it with some 'suggestions' would it remain a self contained rant? Is there a scope to it?
By giving the possibility on this forum for persons to publish their mods is alredy a wonderfull thing indeed!
Anyhow whoever does publish a mod here knows he will have gratefull people on their side but not without any constructive critics made to his work, so then, why would a mod author have to fear his/her mod be perfected in the first place, as I can read that is the philosophy here.
Although I do respect the fact that publishing mods is a delicate task I myself prefer to rather see sloppy code rather than no mods at all beeing published. There is always someone to help and or take over the code/support for others seeking help as i can see IMHO. This is what I really like here!!!
So truley I believe that 'certifing' mods will bring to a lower number of seeking help topics, that way efforts could be moved at more important tasks.
Referring at non ASP developers, I can see that from daily posts, people come here expecting a simple forum solution (which they find) but than walk away from Snitz when they need to add functionality to it (although again they find very good support here). You could find good examples of this by looking at the hall of fame sites. I'm not saying mods should be included in Snitz, that is up to authors to decide, but rather what is a Snitz target user and what does he want from snitz.
I'm sure some or all of my previous rants were discussed before, so I'll end my rant mode here in the hope this thread be continued by people directly involved in decision making 
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bobby131313
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 01 August 2005 : 23:07:21
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
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Fazzer
Starting Member
United Kingdom
37 Posts |
Posted - 13 August 2005 : 11:45:57
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The Mods that are worthwhile stand out without too much research. I think we should all accept that the MODS are submitted through the goodwill of others and in many cases are building blocks and ripe for further enhancement. Although it is frustrating when Mods do not work it does open up the challenge to tweak and play around with them.
Keep them coming I say as there is some brilliant stuff coming through!
If you think some of the Snitz Mods contributions are poor try Webwiz they are worth ranting about.....they really are dreadful and I was never so grateful to find Snitz !!!!
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golfmann
Junior Member
United States
450 Posts |
Posted - 14 September 2005 : 20:46:08
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I think this thread is a great thing!
Working with mods has made me a snitzhead! Lol
They are priceless to the snitz world in my opinion
Perhaps a redo or adding of a MOD W/Code BETA Forum is all that's needed. That sets the buyer beware part and hopefully lends to a better discussion and "burn in" of a given mod which then transfers to the prime time mod section upon acclimation or whatever .
The value of this place is the always evolving aspect of it...mods included. I can see the wiki thoughts but we already have that ability as far as comments and checking goes. If it's something where people add bits of CODE like a progressive novel then that would be just too wierd!
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mangran
Starting Member
USA
10 Posts |
Posted - 26 September 2005 : 18:35:39
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It's an old thread, so forgive me for resurrecting....
Call me Mr. Necromancer.
Anyway, I had a problem with my forums. According to my webhost, it sent the MySQL server into an infinite loop. Of course, they gave me no information so for all I know it was a direct attack, an exploit, or even some other code on my site. Finding it is a needle in the haystack sort of endeavour. I've had other problems too. Problems with that "webgarden" thing that caused problems with session cookies and recently, apparently MySQL is now returning "select count" results as something other than an integer which caused type mismatches all over the forum (I'm assuming my webhost did an upgrade or something).
So here is my point... going through the code, it's a mess. You can tell where different people programmed different things. Some people forced the variables into types, some use different variable naming conventions, etc. etc. etc.
I've been doing this for a long time (and working with Snitz for years as well)... I can handle dealing with messed up code. However, many others just can't.
I read the other stuff on the "should we or shouldn't we" concerning reviews and such, so why not do it like this. Vote with the feet, so to speak.
Set up a site (or do it here) of mods where the mods are reviewed for workability, documentation, and uniformity. Those mods get the seal of approval, guaranteed or your money back... except you didn't pay any money so..........
You still have places like the forums here or snitzbitz where everyone can post anything, however, for the people who really need reliability or really need idiot proof instructions, it's there. That's the point of the whole open nature of the internet. If you want it, just do it. Let's face it. Even in places like Snitzbitz, it's not always easy to tell what the newest version of a mod is, or if another mod by someone else has superceded it, etc. etc. etc. We really need to have more organization than there is.
Now naturally, any kind of review/standardization process is going to take time and resources, so as such, mods will go through a lot slower than a more "open" environment like Snitzbitz or the open forums. This keeps the whole "death by committee" stuff from being a major fear by having the "official stamp" mods killing the "independent" ones. Some people will always want the latest and greatest, so they'll still go there (and get whatever they get) while those who really want or need to "play it safe" ALSO have their needs met. Polls could be used to help the "review group" decide which mods need to be approved faster (which also helps determine which ones are more popular for consideration to be added to the next baseline).
Everyone gets what they need.
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maduko
New Member
USA
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Posted - 02 January 2006 : 23:04:49
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Let me toss in my 2˘ in favor of adding more features to the base code.
I came here this evening because we just downloaded 3.4.05 and our current forum has a ton of Mods installed.
Since I began using the Snitz scripts on my sites in 2001 we are constantly downloading the same Mods over and over. Some of these Mods seem to outdate the Snitz forum itself!
Why would the inclusion of features like polls be such a problem? Users not wishing to use them can simply not turn them on.< |
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ca204valry
Starting Member
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Posted - 13 September 2006 : 13:48:39
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| Hi i am using the avatar MOD with the real name MOD. i am facing some problem with the installation in file topic.asp.< |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 September 2006 : 13:51:57
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Originally posted by ca204valry
Hi i am using the avatar MOD with the real name MOD. i am facing some problem with the installation in file topic.asp.
please try posting in the correct Forum, ie "MOD Implementation forum"< |
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mdelcour2000
Junior Member
United States
133 Posts |
Posted - 22 October 2007 : 13:44:28
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| I AM MAJORLY PISSED OFF......I just installed the 5-in-1 MOD. The Config.asp file was BAD. It dosen't work, and now I have lost EVERYTHING anybody ever posted on my forum.< |
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AnonJr
Moderator
United States
5768 Posts |
Posted - 22 October 2007 : 14:28:27
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First, if you have an issue with the 5-in-1 pack, you should start a new topic on it in the "Help: MOD Implementation" forum. It really doesn't fit in this topic.
Second, are you sure it overwrote everything? If you didn't change the config.asp file to point to your existing database it won't know to pull the topics from there. But that is something we can continue in a new topic.  < |
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin
Portugal
26364 Posts |
Posted - 22 October 2007 : 14:31:50
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No bad config.asp would ever cause posts to be lost.
Also, as posted in the forum here, there are things people need to do before installing mods and blaming others for their own mistakes. One of the things recommended there is a backup of your pre-mod files. Did you do that? If you did, just get the files back and you're data will be there. If not... well you have no one to blame but yourself.
If you're after something other than blaming those who just make their work freely available to others, I would suggest a change of attitude and a post, in the right forum, explaining your situation in detail, and asking for help.< |
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