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Morpheus73
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 Posted - 29 April 2001 : 17:16:28
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Please it is essential for the development of many of the other mods, that we have some sort of grouping system for users. Admin define different usergroups, and user selects which one(s) he belongs to in his profile - also admin should be able to confirm user membership for some groups
COME ON ALL YOU COOL CODERS - You´ll need this for your existing/future mods too. :)
mph73
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rick7165
Senior Member
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Posted - 29 April 2001 : 17:44:18
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Yes A User Group mod is needed.
BTW... You should use lower case in the subject line. People take it
as you're yelling at them.
Rick
Test Site
www.eastpasco.com
HuwR's SR4 release. Colors and Graphic scheme done by Richard Kinser. |
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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin
USA
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Posted - 29 April 2001 : 19:10:26
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| Sorry, I personally don't see the need for it. You have an Admin who runs the board, Moderators who watch over their assigned forums, and Normal Users who post messages. |
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kovan
Junior Member
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Posted - 29 April 2001 : 19:23:19
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agreed with Richard
maybe i am not thinking exactly what morph wants thou..
if its just as richard said, no need for it
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rick7165
Senior Member
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Posted - 29 April 2001 : 19:46:47
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I'm not talking about User Groups... I'm talking about The Email Mod for users groups... I can't get the
one I've got working. I don't need "User Groups" in the forum. There is no use for that, but email YES!!
Rick
Test Site
www.eastpasco.com
HuwR's SR4 release. Colors and Graphic scheme done by Richard Kinser. |
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kovan
Junior Member
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Posted - 29 April 2001 : 19:50:26
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HuwR version contains the BEST emailer ever
it has all "user groups"
moderators
administrators
inactive users
regular users
ect..
3.2.. that is
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rick7165
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 29 April 2001 : 20:21:14
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I hear that.. been trying to get my hands on it
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kovan
Junior Member
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Posted - 29 April 2001 : 20:25:38
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email huwr
am sure he will send ya the mod..
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bjlt
Senior Member
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Posted - 29 April 2001 : 23:54:55
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Sorry, I personally don't see the need for it. You have an Admin who runs the board, Moderators who watch over their assigned forums, and Normal Users who post messages.
besides email user group, I think we need group in events calendar also.some people may want to use an online events calendar to share information with others but not general public. other than notification service, why people use an online private calender for himself? he has it in his own pc or pda etc. That's why I think a group is needed for calendar.
it also helps if your forum targeting different aspects. e.g. user can select what aspects (forums) they are interested in, maybe easier for the email group set up and private forum set up.
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Morpheus73
Average Member
Denmark
597 Posts |
Posted - 30 April 2001 : 01:24:19
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Sorry, I personally don't see the need for it. You have an Admin who runs the board, Moderators who watch over their assigned forums, and Normal Users who post messages.
Well, usergroups could be used for many things...
1. CALENDAR: as already stated it could be used to show group related events in the calendar. - e.g. if you have 10000 (!) users and run a gaming board, users would get events for their clan-only/game only, instead of huge listings of all sorts and all games that day.
2.FORUMS. You could quickly apply remove a whole group or groups of people to a "allowed members list" forum instead of spendning the whole day adding 450 people to the list, and the next day removing maybe 250 of them.
3. PORTAL MOD: You could have specific usergroup related news/content show up in the different sections of the portal e.g. if the board is used at a school (my purpose) you could let kids get certain news and teachers and parent other news/links/polls/quotes a.s.f.
4. EMAIL/PM/SEND TO FRIEND as mentioned by others above, the usergroups could be used to send mails/PM a.s.f. to whole groups of users at a time.
5. INC_TOPS this would also be the foundation of having different INC_TOPS/COLOR SCHEMES/LAYOUT for different usergroups, which would mean, that you could have 6-7 or more sites with completely different layout/content using one big forum (much easyer to administer).
As said, usergroups would be a great benefit of admin/moderators too, here are my arguments:
1. Quickly add/delete whole groups of users to certain forums/content a.s.f.,
2. If users sign up for certain groups who are distributed critical information (teachers and so forth), admin could have the option to accept the users application for group before the user is allowed to group (or this could be administered through passwords)
3. one board for multiple sites: with grouprelated design/content/layout, admins could have only one board (but he better back it up  ) for multiple sites - would ease the daily contact with users to a great extinct.
..and much more. Basicly the integration of usergroups could mean an unseen custmomization of the forum - and along with the personalization MOD (that Tschive and Marino are working on), it would customize the forum/portal/community on a level yet unseen in the opensource forum/portal/community communities.
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Reichert
Starting Member
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Posted - 03 May 2001 : 14:54:26
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Well, usergroups could be used for many things...
I just wanted to post in agreement with morpheus, I think user groups are essential, especially for very active boards. I think he covered the details very well so I won't repeat them. Thanks for articulating that Morpheus.
Stephen Palmer -=- Reichert
root@ Gearbox Software
Micah 6:8 "He has showed you, oh man, what is good ... "
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Morpheus73
Average Member
Denmark
597 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2001 : 16:22:12
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As said earlier, I personally think Snitz has grown far beyond being "just" a forum. it appears to me that 70% of the usage mods people have developed for snitz have features, that does not service the forum only, but offer a wide (the widest?) array of services of ANY open source project on the web. Thus I think that servicing the basic code with a subcateroies system for usergroups (as well as forums) should be implemented to offer services developed in the future as well as the already developed the possibilities to administer large groups of users and memberpermissions.
I have lately mainly been occupied with Tschive´s version of the Portal mod and HuwR´s version. At Tschive´s it looks like we´re going to start developing an usergroup system soon, but I still think it should be an basic option in the general SR code to benefit future development.
MPH73
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Morpheus73
Average Member
Denmark
597 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2001 : 16:37:17
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As said earlier, I personally think Snitz has grown far beyond being "just" a forum. it appears to me that 70% of the usage mods people have developed for snitz have features, that does not service the forum only, but offer a wide (the widest?) array of services of ANY open source project on the web.
NB VBportal is looking pretty good too, but with the sub development projects underway for Snitz....they have no chance!
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Morpheus73
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Posted - 04 May 2001 : 22:05:48
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Didn't anybody use restricted forums (hidden, PW protected etc)? Groups are a must! It takes me a lot of time to give rights to different users. You usually run one forum for a company, and give restricted access to several forums. Board Members, hight level staff, staff, shareholders (for me members of the foundation), normal forum members, etc must have different access rights. If one staff changes, you have to make a lot of assignments to single forums. Why not solve it by assigning that person to 2-3 groups?
But this cannot be MOD as others. The four levels are very hardcoded ! We have to change the whole thing a lot. I don't think it's feasible to code it now. This must be after v4.0.
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History Foundation of Turkey
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Morpheus73
Average Member
Denmark
597 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2001 : 03:29:53
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I agree that it should be integrated in the Snitz basic coding, and also that it should use such features as secure groups, where admin validates the user and also a sub category system of users. But for now a mod will be just excellent, since this is a very important feature, that´ll probably need a lot of "dummy-testing" - postproduction development, a MOD running independent of the hardcode is very good. Also we´re looking at a long time untill a eventual SR5. - and wer need a group feature now.
mph73
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