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Balkins
Starting Member

USA
14 Posts

Posted - 24 January 2016 :  11:22:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi all,

Was talking to a friend about differences between a V-bulletin site (php) and a Snitz site (ASP).

Not sure if this is true but what i've found is
-v-bulletin sites are more FRONT end attractive.
-apparently no one has done or figured out a way to make SNITZ sites more attractive to compete with V-Bulletin.

QUESTION(S);
-What is the best looking Snitz site you've seen?
-How did the developer get their Snitz sites to look more appealing that so many V-Bulletin sites enjoy?
-Snitz sites look "ordinary" and "colorless"---nothing striking about them.....why is this?

Thanks for your input!

~T

HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20584 Posts

Posted - 25 January 2016 :  03:34:15  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
Mainly due to the old structure of Snitz, it does not use css etc so would require a total rewrite from the ground up.
Having said that I am getting very close to releasing a new 'modern' .Net version of the forum. I am in the final stages of testing and hope to release it at the beginning of feb.
There is a reasonably up to date version which points at this database http://forum.snitz.com/mvc
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Balkins
Starting Member

USA
14 Posts

Posted - 25 January 2016 :  11:09:52  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by HuwR

Mainly due to the old structure of Snitz, it does not use css etc so would require a total rewrite from the ground up.
Having said that I am getting very close to releasing a new 'modern' .Net version of the forum. I am in the final stages of testing and hope to release it at the beginning of feb.
There is a reasonably up to date version which points at this database http://forum.snitz.com/mvc



Interesting...and this will be written in ".net" code language?

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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20584 Posts

Posted - 25 January 2016 :  11:27:26  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Balkins

Interesting...and this will be written in ".net" code language?




Yes, it is written in C# using .Net MVC 4 and petapoco for the database backend.
I have just updated the codebase at http://forum.snitz.com/mvc so it is now running the latest version which is almost ready for release.

MVC .net dev/test site | MVC .net running on Raspberry Pi
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Balkins
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USA
14 Posts

Posted - 25 January 2016 :  17:50:39  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by HuwR

quote:
Originally posted by Balkins

Interesting...and this will be written in ".net" code language?




Yes, it is written in C# using .Net MVC 4 and petapoco for the database backend.
I have just updated the codebase at http://forum.snitz.com/mvc so it is now running the latest version which is almost ready for release.



Nice!
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Balkins
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USA
14 Posts

Posted - 29 January 2016 :  18:41:50  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Balkins

quote:
Originally posted by HuwR

quote:
Originally posted by Balkins

Interesting...and this will be written in ".net" code language?




Yes, it is written in C# using .Net MVC 4 and petapoco for the database backend.
I have just updated the codebase at http://forum.snitz.com/mvc so it is now running the latest version which is almost ready for release.



Nice!



HuwR...will the old modules be usable with the new site?

Looks like the new site will be completely different.

?


Edited by - Balkins on 29 January 2016 18:43:02
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20584 Posts

Posted - 30 January 2016 :  11:33:43  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
quote:
HuwR...will the old modules be usable with the new site?

No, as you say it is completely different

MVC .net dev/test site | MVC .net running on Raspberry Pi
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Balkins
Starting Member

USA
14 Posts

Posted - 31 January 2016 :  09:01:11  Show Profile
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Originally posted by HuwR

quote:
HuwR...will the old modules be usable with the new site?

No, as you say it is completely different



Ok, to your knowledge, is there any quick and easy way to convert the old mods to the C#, .net version?

Also, can will the new version have a built in CSS function or will that have to be written separately?

thansk very much!

~T
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20584 Posts

Posted - 31 January 2016 :  09:27:41  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
No quick way, but depending on the mod would depend on the complexity, which mods did you have in mind ?

The new site use bootstrap and is completely CSS compliant

MVC .net dev/test site | MVC .net running on Raspberry Pi
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Torborg
Junior Member

Norway
109 Posts

Posted - 01 February 2016 :  03:44:30  Show Profile
Could some of us cooperate to make some of the mods quicker available? I (my organization) could probably help pay somebody to make some of the mods we need and make them available to everyone. Would money help? I'm applying for money now to modernize our forum. The plan is just to tidy up the look of the 15 year old forum. www.bio.no/enbiolog/ . New colours, replace some of the icons, make the search bottom more visible, move some of the menu-items and I wish it could be mobile friendly…
It would be better if we could put our money in the new platform if it is possible to get our functionality.

We are also upgrading our mobil app. Take a picture, “what is this?” and post it on the forum:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.computas.biolog

Edited by - Torborg on 01 February 2016 03:46:00
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20584 Posts

Posted - 01 February 2016 :  08:11:51  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
Torborg, it is mainly time that is the issue, just not enough hours in a day
Having said that a lot of MODS will be somewhat simpler to implement in the new code, although by virtue of the fact that it is now .Net, it is not so 'user' moddable as the classic ASP version unless you have some knowledge of C# .Net and access to Visual Studio (although this can be downloaded for free)

The version I am hoping to release does come with some extra bits on top of the Standard Classic ASP, like Private Messaging, File Uploads, Topic Merge/Split and Avatars, and is fully compatible with Mobile devices (other than a few admin functions).

As well as those, I already have Events and Polls lined up for the next release.

MVC .net dev/test site | MVC .net running on Raspberry Pi
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20584 Posts

Posted - 01 February 2016 :  08:21:42  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
The major advantage of the new MVC version is that it should sit quite happily alongside and share the database of a running Classic ASP version (even a modded one, you will just lose some of the MOD functionality while accessing via the MVC version)


One important thing to note is the MVC version will ONLY support MS SQL out of the box, with hopefully MySQL support following. I do not intend on supporting Access databases
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Balkins
Starting Member

USA
14 Posts

Posted - 01 February 2016 :  08:45:21  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by HuwR

No quick way, but depending on the mod would depend on the complexity, which mods did you have in mind ?

The new site use bootstrap and is completely CSS compliant



I was looking at the current linkswapping module. How difficult would it be to change that into the new site?
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20584 Posts

Posted - 01 February 2016 :  08:49:27  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Balkins

I was looking at the current linkswapping module. How difficult would it be to change that into the new site?

I'm not familiar with that MOD, so no idea I'm afraid

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Davio
Development Team Member

Jamaica
12217 Posts

Posted - 02 February 2016 :  10:35:40  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Torborg

Could some of us cooperate to make some of the mods quicker available? I (my organization) could probably help pay somebody to make some of the mods we need and make them available to everyone. Would money help? I'm applying for money now to modernize our forum. The plan is just to tidy up the look of the 15 year old forum. www.bio.no/enbiolog/ . New colours, replace some of the icons, make the search bottom more visible, move some of the menu-items and I wish it could be mobile friendly…
It would be better if we could put our money in the new platform if it is possible to get our functionality.

We are also upgrading our mobil app. Take a picture, “what is this?” and post it on the forum:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.computas.biolog


Torborg, just like in the old days, I would be glad to assist you in customizing your forum, using the .Net version.

So we'll be able to get some mods converted to the new version.

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Torborg
Junior Member

Norway
109 Posts

Posted - 03 February 2016 :  05:17:37  Show Profile
Thanks Davio!
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