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The Impact
Junior Member

Australia
398 Posts

Posted - 01 December 2004 :  05:44:00  Show Profile
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Lycos Europe N.V. is offering Internet users a way to stick it to spammers with its new screen-saver software, called "Make Love, Not Spam."

While the online community/portal company's program saves your screen's pixels from phosphor burn-in--seldom a problem with newer monitors--it uses idle CPU time to send HTTP requests to sites that distribute advertisements via spam. These requests are what a Web browser generates when requesting a Web page. The goal is to generate an abundance of HTTP requests on spam servers, hindering their ability to respond and function. According to makelovenotspam.com, "the frequency and rate of requests are controlled by a centrally stored configuration file from where we can halt, decrease, or increase the load generated by all clients."

However, although Lycos Europe indicates that the targeted sites are only slowed and aren't shut down, that's a subtlety the law might miss. "This strikes me as a denial-of-service attack and a flagrant violation of U.S. law," says Ray Everett-Church, chief privacy officer for ePrivacyGroup.com and counsel for the Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-mail. He warns that while Lycos Europe may be procedurally immune to U.S. prosecution, any spammer in the States harmed by this program might have legal recourse.

But Lycos Europe spokesman Frank Legeland insists that the software is legal in Europe and the U.S. "Make Love, Not Spam is not a DDoS-attack because no spammer server crashes down," he wrote in an E-mail. "We don't do that as we will maintain in any case at least 5% of the remaining bandwidth. We have a technical 'health check' implemented to guarantee that we only create cost, but not crash, any spam server."

http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=54201305&tid=13692
It's great to see Lycos Europe taking action against spammers. I really wish that Microsoft could make a screensaver which would just make it all go away but.....

And within hours of makelovenotspam.com being launched it was hacked and the following message left on the front page.

"Yes, attacking spammers is wrong. You know this, you shouldn’t be doing it. Your IP address and request have been logged and will be reported to your ISP for further action."

Apparently its not right to attack spammers but its fine for them to hack a site fighting for justice.

Da_Stimulator
DEV Team Forum Moderator

USA
3373 Posts

Posted - 01 December 2004 :  06:17:36  Show Profile  Send Da_Stimulator an AOL message  Send Da_Stimulator a Yahoo! Message
:P down with spamservers

-Stim
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pdrg
Support Moderator

United Kingdom
2897 Posts

Posted - 01 December 2004 :  09:40:34  Show Profile  Send pdrg a Yahoo! Message
NO NO NO!!!

What the web needs is not EVEN MORE wasted bandwidth - analogy:
some people drive badly, if we all got in our cars and gridlocked the roads, it would stop them *but is that really a solution?*

I ABHOR spam, but mailbombing/DDOS is not the right answer. What is? Well not pay-per-email imho - but I agree SMTP protocol needs replacing.
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Roland
Advanced Member

Netherlands
9335 Posts

Posted - 01 December 2004 :  10:48:34  Show Profile
I wonder how long it'll take for Lycos to hear from someone who's wrongly been targeted.
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Podge
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Ireland
3775 Posts

Posted - 01 December 2004 :  12:08:58  Show Profile  Send Podge an ICQ Message  Send Podge a Yahoo! Message
I don't think that spammers give a second thought to all the mail servers they bombard with mail and result in them grinding to a halt. Its 'just desserts' that they be on the receiving end for a change.

Podge.

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Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 01 December 2004 :  14:24:09  Show Profile
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Originally posted by Roland

I wonder how long it'll take for Lycos to hear from someone who's wrongly been targeted.


Yeah, all those reply addresses are so correct in spam :)

Hopefully the site gets sued soon and put out of business. Two wrongs don't make a right.

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seven
Senior Member

USA
1037 Posts

Posted - 01 December 2004 :  20:43:56  Show Profile  Visit seven's Homepage
I used to hate spam until I read that 80% of all Internet traffic is spam related... well, this translates well for the surge in companies working to build out their fiber networks. Long story short, I still have quite a bit of Corning stock I've been hanging on to.

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