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taropatch
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USA
741 Posts

Posted - 07 October 2004 :  17:11:32  Show Profile
Anyone have an idea on how to back up email incoming/outgoing? We have a small firm - only 8 people but need to store email backups for compliance/regulatory issues.

Right now most of us use POP3 mail accounts provided by our webhost. Would it be better to get a server and host our own mail. Would that help? I need to save incoming and outgoing email separately from the end users and am not sure how to do this.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Podge
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Ireland
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Posted - 07 October 2004 :  18:29:35  Show Profile  Send Podge an ICQ Message  Send Podge a Yahoo! Message
Try this free mail server (Standard Version) http://www.mailenable.com/

To backup
http://www.mailenable.com/kb/Content/Article.asp?ID=me020024

http://www.mailenable.com/kb/viewarticle.asp?&SS=backup&File=me020114.htm


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-gary
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406 Posts

Posted - 07 October 2004 :  18:39:22  Show Profile
MailEssentials is an awesome program that does that and a lot more. They have a freeware version, but I don't know what's available in it, but at $315 for 25 users, you can't beat the price for what it does. You will need to have your own server running IIS SMTP and an email server. I use Mail Enable also, great program. http://www.gfi.com/mes/

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taropatch
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USA
741 Posts

Posted - 07 October 2004 :  23:15:35  Show Profile
Great links. Thanks guys. So would I use MailEnable instead of MS Exchange?

And -gary, you're using Mail Enable and then MailEsentials on top of that for spam filtering and email archiving?

I hope it's not too hard to DIY but an outsourced service is $2000 setup plus about $900 per year. To me, that money can be better spent. If I do it myself, is it difficult to administer? Am I in over my head?

Edited by - taropatch on 07 October 2004 23:21:00
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Podge
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Ireland
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Posted - 08 October 2004 :  06:15:31  Show Profile  Send Podge an ICQ Message  Send Podge a Yahoo! Message
There's a free product you can use with Mailenable to filter SPAM - http://www.publicplanet.com/mefilter

There's a discussion on it here - http://forums.webhostautomation.com/viewtopic.php?t=7595&highlight=spam

If you also want to filter virii, look into f-prot for windows. Its cheap, about $40 for 10 servers.

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-gary
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406 Posts

Posted - 08 October 2004 :  11:24:23  Show Profile
I use Mailenable as my POP and SMTP server for my email clients. My incoming and outgoing SMTP use the IIS SMTP service with MailEsentials and MailSecurity. For myself, this is a great combination. I run the GFI stuff on one IP and Mailenable on another on the same Win2003 box. Mailenable only allows SMTP transactions from authenticated clients and the rest of the world talks to the GFI filters. Mailenable is a great product, but all the plugins you can find would never match what the GFI stuff can do out of the box. It's amazing the number of security features those products have built into them. Like I said though, I'm not sure what the freeware version supports, so if you looking for a free solution, you might want to check that out first, but even for $315, it's a deal.

KawiForums.com


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taropatch
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USA
741 Posts

Posted - 08 October 2004 :  16:04:40  Show Profile
Do you both use the free Mailenable? Just curious how the web-based function is.
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-gary
Development Team Member

406 Posts

Posted - 09 October 2004 :  00:21:05  Show Profile
I use the free version, and sadly it's not an option. I'm looking to purchase the Pro version just for that capability instead of implementing something like SquirrelMail.

KawiForums.com


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Podge
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Ireland
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Posted - 09 October 2004 :  07:44:59  Show Profile  Send Podge an ICQ Message  Send Podge a Yahoo! Message
I use the Pro version. Its worth it for $195. The Webmail is ok, nothing special.

I have heard of people using uebimiau webmail (free and requires php) with the free version of Mail Enable. I don't know how good it is - http://www.uebimiau.org/

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Gremlin
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New Zealand
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Posted - 09 October 2004 :  08:07:32  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
I brought DWMail a while back for use on my reseller servers and I've been quite impressed considering it cost <$40

http://www.dominion-web.com/products/dwmail/

Mailenable I've not had a single problem with so far it seems pretty stable.

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Gremlin
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New Zealand
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Posted - 09 October 2004 :  19:47:26  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
Oh and just to get back on topic a litle, if your using outlook then see this link

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=8B081F3A-B7D0-4B16-B8AF-5A6322F4FD01&displaylang=en

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taropatch
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USA
741 Posts

Posted - 11 October 2004 :  10:05:42  Show Profile
Mailenable is instead of MS Exchange, right? Do you choose one over the other because of cost and features?

If I get Small Business Server, I think it comes with Exchange? So maybe then I would just purchase MailEsentials for the archiving and spam filtering.
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Podge
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Ireland
3776 Posts

Posted - 11 October 2004 :  10:58:56  Show Profile  Send Podge an ICQ Message  Send Podge a Yahoo! Message
It could cost you quite a bit. If you have 8 employees you would need 10 Client Access Licences (two 5 packs - 1 included with SBS)

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/howtobuy/pricing.mspx

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