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laser
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 Posted - 16 April 2004 : 19:06:48
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Since this conversation is turning into a comparison of hosting offers I'm locking it. Alfred, start another thread if you want to pursue more on the differences from asp to php.
I just want to confirm the reason why the previous thread was locked, and feel free to lock this one as well if you see fit.
Was it off-topic ? well, it sort of was, but anyone talking about ASP & PHP differences will have to compare hosting plans.
Were we talking about hosting offers ? Yes, but usually these sorts of threads only get locked when there are bad things said against a particular hoster. This hasn't been the case here, only positive comments have been put forward about a variety of hosters. There has been some negative comments, but they have largely been without naming names, or have been ignored.
Finally, if my post was the deciding factor in the thread locking, please remove it and re-open the thread. I think Alfred's discussion is quite valid and I feel guilty if the thread locking was my fault.  |
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Classicmotorcycling
Development Team Leader
Australia
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Posted - 16 April 2004 : 19:28:10
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I just feel that it would be a shame to see Alfred throw away all his hard work with ASP and then have to reprogram all his ASP to PHP.
But you are correct in saying that you also need to compare hosts if you are comparing ASP to PHP. The only host names that were mentioned were that of Gremlin & Huwr, wereas I could of mentioned the one I was thinking of, but did not due to the fact that I wanted to keep it about ASP vs PHP.
My personal preference is ASP, it is so simple to get done stuff that takes major complex programming in PHP to do the same function. In the end it is Alfreds decission what he does and good luck to him in what path he follows.
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin
Portugal
26364 Posts |
Posted - 16 April 2004 : 19:49:31
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There could be plenty of reasons to change programming platforms. Frankly, I don't think hosting cost is one of them. I'm sure you can find hosting offers for Windows servers that approximate that one that is making you consider the move to PHP.
IMO, what you can do with ASP you will be able to do with PHP. You have a problem, though, Alfred. Sorry if this sounds blunt, but you're not a very experienced programmer. There were numerous instances in which you requested help on problems quite similar to others that you had been helped with before. It took you a lotta of time and a lotta effort to get where you are today ... and it seems like you want to throw away much of that experience now.
In the comparision of hosting offers, you were leaving off a variable that should be consider: the time you will need to master PHP. Doesn't time cost money? I believe time it does, but you are leaving it off the equation.
IMO, you should look for a better hosting offer for a Windows server and stick to ASP. Anyway, it's your call, but if you insist on doing it (and I kinda feel you will), I wish you a joyfull ride. |
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OneWayMule
Dev. Team Member & Support Moderator
Austria
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Posted - 16 April 2004 : 19:50:10
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Was it off-topic ? well, it sort of was, but anyone talking about ASP & PHP differences will have to compare hosting plans.
Not nececarily (sp?), especially in Alfed's situation - he has done a lot things in ASP, wants to start a business and that's not a good moment to switch from ASP (experience, a lot of cutom code done) to PHP (no experience).
Of course hosts need to be compared especially if you are comparing ASP and PHP (again, as I saidn in the other topic - it's the features you need that count), but let me apologize since it was me who started comparing hosting featues, despite of the forum rules.
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There has been some negative comments, but they have largely been without naming names, or have been ignored.
Yeah, but it's not wanted here.
Let's keep this topic host-free  |
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OneWayMule
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 April 2004 : 05:10:21
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| I must have missed the initial thread, but I will just say one thing, as a programmer, language is one of the last things to consider, it doesn't matter to me whether I write in PHP,ASP,C#, Pascal or any other language for that matter, a programmer should be able to code in any language. |
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
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Posted - 17 April 2004 : 05:31:23
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How's your APL Huw  |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 April 2004 : 05:41:14
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a bit rusty these days  , although most APL I ever dealt with was when migrating from one system to another, so never actually wrote anything with it, just had to read a lot of it. |
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
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Posted - 17 April 2004 : 07:15:03
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laser
Advanced Member
Australia
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Posted - 17 April 2004 : 07:49:38
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Originally posted by HuwR
I must have missed the initial thread, but I will just say one thing, as a programmer, language is one of the last things to consider, it doesn't matter to me whether I write in PHP,ASP,C#, Pascal or any other language for that matter, a programmer should be able to code in any language.
Yes, but you're a coder; I'm a coder, and we can appreciate the logical layer of coding while ignoring the actual language being used.
IMHO, Alfred is not a coder - sure he makes stuff work, but starting from zero in PHP to design a site that works exactly like the same site he currently has working in ASP is not a decision to be taken lightly. OR .... maybe I haven't found the PHP equivalent of Snitz (meaning a great community that will help each other through anything). I know some other GPL style software that has a "support" forum, but any support call more difficult than a typo in the install dir is simply ignored |
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