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Ryan
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USA
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Posted - 16 February 2004 :  15:59:07  Show Profile  Visit Ryan's Homepage
Where can I get a copy of MS SQL? I did some searching for it but didnt come up with any topics on it...

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Nikkol
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USA
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Posted - 16 February 2004 :  16:00:16  Show Profile
you have to buy it

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OneWayMule
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Austria
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Posted - 16 February 2004 :  18:55:29  Show Profile  Visit OneWayMule's Homepage  Send OneWayMule an ICQ Message
If you want to do some offline testing, take a look at MSDE:
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/msde/default.asp

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Gremlin
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New Zealand
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Posted - 17 February 2004 :  04:33:42  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
There is a trial version available from Microsoft as well, but long term MSDE is probably the best, you get most of the functionality of it's big brother. You may still however want to get the trial version so you can get Enterprise Manager and Query Analyser which unless MS have changed it don't time out when the rest of the trial does, however I'm fairly certain it's probably a breech of the EULA to continue using them after the trial expires.

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Doug G
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USA
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Posted - 17 February 2004 :  11:01:29  Show Profile
You can buy a developer version of sql server 2000 for $49.00 US. It was on the shelf at Fry Electronics in California.

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Gremlin
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New Zealand
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Posted - 18 February 2004 :  02:23:08  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
Is Developer Edition the same thing as "Desktop Engine"? both come out as MSDE acronym wise!

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ruirib
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Portugal
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Posted - 18 February 2004 :  06:12:42  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
No, it's not the same thing. Developer Edition is Enterprise Edition, just that you can only deploy it for development, not for production.

http://www.microsoft.com/sql/techinfo/planning/ChoosEd.doc


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Gremlin
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New Zealand
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Posted - 18 February 2004 :  08:33:06  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
I'll rephrase slightly ;) which product does the acronym MSDE actually refer too then ? searching MS for MSDE comes up with hits to both :)

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ruirib
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Portugal
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Posted - 18 February 2004 :  08:36:54  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
It refers to Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Desktop Engine, AFAIK. This one is just the data engine with nothing else, changed to support up to 25 connections, max.


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Doug G
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USA
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Posted - 18 February 2004 :  11:29:06  Show Profile
MSDE began as v1.0 which was a SQL7 compatible engine and was distributed with Access 2000 & Visual Studio. At that time MSDE was not free, you had to have these products and you were allowed to integrate MSDE into your application but not distribute MSDE by itself.

Since then MS has loosened the licensing and made MSDE available. AFAIK MSDE is still minus any client tools.

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ruirib
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Portugal
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Posted - 18 February 2004 :  11:36:18  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by Doug G


Since then MS has loosened the licensing and made MSDE available. AFAIK MSDE is still minus any client tools.



Yep. This seems to confirm that, since it says only osql comes with MSDE.


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Doug G
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USA
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Posted - 18 February 2004 :  15:49:32  Show Profile
Thanks, ruirib :)

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DavidRhodes
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1222 Posts

Posted - 18 February 2004 :  16:35:54  Show Profile
I've been playing with MSDE for a few weeks now and will be testing my forum soon running on it, it is identical to MSSQL Server in every way apart from the 3Gb db limit (who's ever gonna reach that!) and the 25 connection limit. Clever coding can work well, who in MS thought of introducing connection pooling and free MSSQL Server (MSDE)!

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DavidRhodes
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 February 2004 :  16:36:54  Show Profile
There's loads of free tools to administer it also, mostly ASP.NET web apps

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