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Nikkol
Forum Moderator
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 Posted - 04 June 2003 : 18:07:14
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| Here's a question for all you folks regarding the Deny permissions. With allow permissions, that only applies to forums that are private. So how do we want to hand deny permissions? for any forum or just those that are private? |
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Etymon
Advanced Member
United States
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Posted - 05 June 2003 : 02:18:40
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Originally posted by Nikkol
Here's a question for all you folks regarding the Deny permissions. With allow permissions, that only applies to forums that are private. So how do we want to hand deny permissions? for any forum or just those that are private?
Nikkol,
I need it for all forums.
My use for it for is to put a restriction on the posting habits of habitual offenders, like those who harrass with snide comments, post unwanted spam, or are just acting stupid.
If the reply to topic icon was not available for that person, that seems to be a simple approach.
A more complex approach would be to allow the reply to topic icon available as usual but then when they clicked on it a message would appear stating that they are only able to post in a few select forums and have some sort of list available.
An even more complex approach would be the same as above except the admin could have the ability to customize the message to each user being able to state what the reason is for that member in particular and such. This way they are constantly reminded whenever they try to post where they know they are restricted that that action is not tolerated in those forums.
I don't really want to get into banning a member if at all possible. I want to have it with a message because the forums that I will assign these members to, are intended to be a slight reproof which have the potential to get more restrictive depending on the person's attitude and perserverance.
I think of it as a security measure that isn't as in their faces as an all out complete ban on their membership. Also, I'd rather give them a chance to prove themselves than have them come back as another identity and perhaps starting the whole mess all over again. You know?
I'd also like to get the moderators involved to some extent to the point where they can review messages to stay abreast and alert on the issues, but not to the point where they can change the member's usergroup. I think I can tweak this part though.
I can explain more if you like.
Thank you for asking. We are very excited about this. Thank you again for recreating the MOD!
Etymon
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Nikkol
Forum Moderator
USA
6907 Posts |
Posted - 05 June 2003 : 06:49:09
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| Well Etymon, the usergroup mod works on the Forum level, not on the Topic level, so they won't be able to even enter the forum if I put Deny Permissions. Is that what you want? |
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Etymon
Advanced Member
United States
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Posted - 05 June 2003 : 07:04:07
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Originally posted by Nikkol
Well Etymon, the usergroup mod works on the Forum level, not on the Topic level, so they won't be able to even enter the forum if I put Deny Permissions. Is that what you want?
I think you presently have it designed to apply only to private forums, so a member would have to be logged in to even view a forum.
I am thinking of when a member isn't logged in. I don't mind that they can view the discussions in all public forums. I just don't want them to be able to reply in all public forums. I want them to have reply priviledges to specific forums (both private and public - as I specify) if they have been restricted from other forums. I suppose it's like locking down a set of forums for that user and only having the ones unlocked that I specify.
On a regular Snitz board, I'd have to put every member into an allowed list for each forum and then individually omit the ones I didn't want to post in each forum. I was hoping that with your MOD I could put all the members into a general usergroup, and then I could place the restricted members into a restricted usergroup or even have a choice of a selection of restriced usergroups.
I hope I am making sense and not frustrating you.
I'm happy with your MOD though. I don't want you to go far out of your way with my request. |
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Nikkol
Forum Moderator
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Posted - 05 June 2003 : 07:16:45
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I don't think you understand what I mean by deny permissions. If denied permissions are applied to a forum (any forum not just private ones), then a logged in user will not be able to even get into the forum. Someone who is logged out will be able to read non-private forums, but they won't be able to post. If you are wanting a logged in user to be able to access a forum, but not post, that is not possible unless extensive changes to the base code of snitz are made. That would be like "Read Only" permissions, not Deny permissions.
Now, if all you want is to be able to have the ability to easily manage users, then you would have the general group you are talking about and then a TimeOut group that does not have any forums. When you want to punish the user, just remove them from the general group and put them in the TimeOut group. The TimeOut group would then just serve as a reminder to you that they should be moved back at some point. |
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Etymon
Advanced Member
United States
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Posted - 05 June 2003 : 08:09:10
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Ah, ok. I understand better now. Yes, the way you explained it in the first paragraph is perfect. I don't need the part quoted below:
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If you are wanting a logged in user to be able to access a forum, but not post, that is not possible unless extensive changes to the base code of snitz are made. That would be like "Read Only" permissions, not Deny permissions.
Your 2nd paragraph also helps me understand your MOD a lot better. Thanks!
Another question though.
When a new member registers, will the member automatically be placed in a general usergroup like I was wanting, or will I have to manually place each member into the general usergroup?
Thank you for the explanation. It was just what I needed. 
Cheers,
Etymon
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Nikkol
Forum Moderator
USA
6907 Posts |
Posted - 05 June 2003 : 08:47:29
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As to your other question. I thought of adding that functionality just this morning! So, yes, it will be there.
So, let me ask again. Do we want Deny Permissions? |
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vmplanet
Junior Member
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Posted - 05 June 2003 : 09:38:19
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| I like it alot, i have alot of forums that are private. This will make it so much easier to add a new member to all those forums! I can't hardly wait till you release this! |
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OneWayMule
Dev. Team Member & Support Moderator
Austria
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Etymon
Advanced Member
United States
2385 Posts |
Posted - 05 June 2003 : 19:32:04
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| Yes, here as well. |
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homeacademy
Junior Member
USA
163 Posts |
Posted - 06 June 2003 : 07:31:22
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Deny permissions would be great  |
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Nikkol
Forum Moderator
USA
6907 Posts |
Posted - 06 June 2003 : 18:49:16
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| Just to let everyone know, I'm looking into adding Read-Only permissions as well. However, I'll probably release a beta with the deny permissions done first. I'll just have to see how far I get with it this weekend. |
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homeacademy
Junior Member
USA
163 Posts |
Posted - 06 June 2003 : 20:33:39
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| Thanks for the update. I'm really looking forward to this MOD! |
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Etymon
Advanced Member
United States
2385 Posts |
Posted - 07 June 2003 : 00:09:53
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Originally posted by homeacademy
Thanks for the update. I'm really looking forward to this MOD!
Thank you, Nikkol! Just what I needed. *sigh!*
Etymon
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Nikkol
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