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beso
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Finland
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Posted - 01 April 2003 :  06:13:36  Show Profile  Visit beso's Homepage
Mr. Bülent Özden you are a honest men

I am surprised that - what I thought was very Soviet, Communist habit - "CENZURA" - exists (even more) in the contemporary Western society and many young people newer seen Communist régime are acting like Communist nomenclature and Comsomol activists oppressing any opposite opinion and criticism...

Oppressing Freedom for freedom... Killing for life... Ruin to build... This is evidence of wikness.

But, I think that, this can not be reason for you to stop yours activity internationalizing this software… Remedy for the political and social ilness - you do not like - is time and only time...

And remember, this product (sofware) somehow exists also as independent materia, independent even from its formal owners...

P.S. And if US will follow Soviet Russia's line, the end would be the same... Prolong yours work - small languages are waiting for it...<

Edited by - beso on 01 April 2003 06:24:27

HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 April 2003 :  06:25:01  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
Look, I thought we made our position on this very clear.

Bozdens reasons for leaving are his own, the topic WAS NOT LOCKED FOR ANY REASONS OF CENSORSHIP, if you disagree with that, then go somewhere else I really don't care, I am sick and tired of defending my right to lock a topic when asked to by the moderators here, if that makes me a communist, then so be it. But spouting of at the mouth without even enquiring of the person who locked the topic is also unacceptable.

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And remember, this product (sofware) somehow exists also as independent materia, independent even from its formal owners...


And that is entirely incorrect, the Snitz forum belongs to the copyright holders, it is not an independant material, its development is controlled by the copyright, if it isn't then it is not Snitz.<
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beso
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Finland
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Posted - 01 April 2003 :  06:29:36  Show Profile  Visit beso's Homepage
quote:

And that is entirely incorrect, the Snitz forum belongs to the copyright holders, it is not an independant material, its development is controlled by the copyright, if it isn't then it is not Snitz.



HuwR -- I am not speaking about "material", I am speaking about "MATERIA" which can't be controlled by any copyright... This is philosophy - not low and programming...<

Edited by - beso on 01 April 2003 06:29:55
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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 April 2003 :  06:32:58  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
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HuwR -- I am not speaking about "material", I am speaking about "MATERIA" which can't be controlled by any copyright... This is philosophy - not low and programming...


So you mean you are talking bollocks then, since there is no such word in the english language<
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beso
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Finland
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Posted - 01 April 2003 :  06:36:06  Show Profile  Visit beso's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by HuwR

quote:

HuwR -- I am not speaking about "material", I am speaking about "MATERIA" which can't be controlled by any copyright... This is philosophy - not low and programming...


So you mean you are talking bollocks then, since there is no such word in the english language



This is not English this Greek term - this part of forum is international - so we are using many foreign terms HuwR :)<

Edited by - beso on 01 April 2003 06:37:41
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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 April 2003 :  06:39:19  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
Actually, its latin not greek meaning MATTER which is where the word material comes from, I don't remember matter being very philisophical either<
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beso
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Finland
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Posted - 01 April 2003 :  06:44:09  Show Profile  Visit beso's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by HuwR

Actually, its latin not greek meaning MATTER which is where the word material comes from, I don't remember matter being very philisophical either



NO HuwR - it IS NO Latin term - it is Greek term... And Greeks were using this term some 3-5 hundred years erlier then Roman empire was born...

Greek materia = 'substance'<

Edited by - beso on 01 April 2003 07:02:35
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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 April 2003 :  06:54:28  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
well, you will have to take that up with the Oxford dictionary then not me.

and we will therefore never agree since your idea of the word is entirely different to mine<
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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 April 2003 :  07:01:52  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
I have censored your post, and removed what you put after I had posted, if you would like to restate your comments then do so in a new post, don't edit your old ones.<
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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 April 2003 :  07:05:21  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
look, will you stop editing your bloody posts, if you have something new to say make a new post. the edit facility is for you to correct mistakes, not add or change parts of your post.

LATIN Materia = 'matter'<
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beso
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Finland
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Posted - 01 April 2003 :  07:07:09  Show Profile  Visit beso's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by HuwR

look, will you stop editing your bloody posts, if you have something new to say make a new post. the edit facility is for you to correct mistakes, not add or change parts of your post.

LATIN Materia = 'matter'



You are to write source, where you have find this explanation? In the some popular calendar?

Do you think Aristotele was speaking Latin??? <

Edited by - beso on 01 April 2003 07:08:20
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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 April 2003 :  07:08:56  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
if you are just going to be insulting, you will have your account locked.<
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beso
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Finland
63 Posts

Posted - 01 April 2003 :  07:13:00  Show Profile  Visit beso's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by HuwR

if you are just going to be insulting, you will have your account locked.



HuwR - do not discuss subjects you are not specialist... Consolidate on programming and code. I am here for this Internationalized Snitz and if this would be quit I have not interest here... Can you understand?

I ask Mr. Bülent Özden not to quit his work and ask you reduce yours histeria... <

Edited by - beso on 01 April 2003 07:13:43
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HuwR
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Posted - 01 April 2003 :  07:22:31  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
Ok, I asked you twice not to edit your posts and add stuff to them, and told you not to be insulting, if that is all you can do then go somewhere else.

quote:

HuwR - do not discuss subjects you are not specialist... Consolidate on programming and code. I am here for this Internationalized Snitz and if this would be quit I have not interest here... Can you understand?


You are the one that needs to understand something, not I.
just because you think a word means one thing and I and the oxford english dictionary think it means something else is no reason to through insults at me.
<
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beso
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Finland
63 Posts

Posted - 01 April 2003 :  07:41:53  Show Profile  Visit beso's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by HuwR

Ok, I asked you twice not to edit your posts and add stuff to them, and told you not to be insulting, if that is all you can do then go somewhere else.

quote:

HuwR - do not discuss subjects you are not specialist... Consolidate on programming and code. I am here for this Internationalized Snitz and if this would be quit I have not interest here... Can you understand?


You are the one that needs to understand something, not I.
just because you think a word means one thing and I and the oxford english dictionary think it means something else is no reason to through insults at me.




do not look into oxford english dictionary for children - check this links:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22Materia Prima%22 Aristotle
or search web for:
<<"Materia Prima" Aristotle>>

And agein:

<<And remember, this product (sofware) somehow exists also as independent materia, independent even from its formal owners...>>
<

Edited by - beso on 01 April 2003 07:45:02
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Don Albus
Starting Member

Denmark
16 Posts

Posted - 01 April 2003 :  07:51:08  Show Profile
Beso, you are dancing on very thin ice. If you follow the hits from google, you'll find a lot of pages/sentences in latin, spanish and italian.<

Regards
Don albus
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