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beso
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 Posted - 01 April 2003 : 07:55:05
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HuwR -- I am not speaking about "material", I am speaking about "MATERIA" which can't be controlled by any copyright... This is philosophy - not low and programming...
So you mean you are talking bollocks then, since there is no such word in the english language
#1. Is there such word in the English language ?  < |
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HuwR
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Posted - 01 April 2003 : 07:57:54
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then perhaps rather than insulting me you should get your facts right before trying to quote something, since the term you are looking at is "Materia prima" has a very different meaning than the single word materia which means MATTER, whether it is greek or Latin, Materia Prima however has an entirely diffeent meaning.
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beso
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Posted - 01 April 2003 : 08:00:10
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Originally posted by HuwR
then perhaps rather than insulting me you should get your facts right before trying to quote something, since the term you are looking at is "Materia prima" has a very different meaning than the single word materia which means MATTER, whether it is greek or Latin, Materia Prima however has an entirely diffeent meaning.
I have pointed on "Materia Prima" because there is correct!!! usage of term "MATERIA", wery close to meaning I have used... "SUBSTANCE" is more close from the common English terms...
And any programming product, software as MATERIA/SUBSTANCE somehow is independent from it's formal owner! Because this product can exist witout his owner. About this I was speaking --- asking Bulent not to quit hi works... Giving him a signal that he is serving MATERIA/SUBSTANCE and not owners of this materia The only tini link betwin program and his formal owner is copyright low which is nothing then RELATION and NOT MATERIA/SUBSTANCE!
And this is not metter to "terorise" me  < |
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Don Albus
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Posted - 01 April 2003 : 08:06:30
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But still latin.
On http://www.levity.com/alchemy/a-archive_may00.html aprox. 1/3 down you will find this:
Hello Catherine:
I think we could translate the Latin "Materia prima" as the Spanish
"materia prima" (prime matter)....
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HuwR
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Posted - 01 April 2003 : 08:21:08
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"materia Prima" is a latimn term used to describe Aristiotles philosophies on prime matter, it is NOT a greek term, and was not the term used by Aristotle
you will find I know a lot more about Aristotle and Socrates than you think I do.
The software does not exist independantly from its owner, that is why there is such a thing as Intelectual property rights which means I can own the mear idea of the software, so by its definition can not be "materia prima"
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beso
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Posted - 01 April 2003 : 08:28:42
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Originally posted by HuwR
"materia Prima" is a latimn term used to describe Aristiotles philosophies on prime matter, it is NOT a greek term, and was not the term used by Aristotle
you will find I know a lot more about Aristotle and Socrates than you think I do.
The software does not exist independantly from its owner, that is why there is such a thing as Intelectual property rights which means I can own the mear idea of the software, so by its definition can not be "materia prima"
Good you have get more knowlige about Greek Philosophy... "Materia Prima" bless Web And I agree you that software can not be "Materia Prima" - it can be only "Materia Number 0,000001" , but sometimes somebody are think that it is "Materia Prima"... Even theirs owners and owners owners are not "Materia Prima" And somebody can own something for some time... But sometimes something can exist after his owner... About this I was speaking. And even hardware (not speaking about software) can exist independantly from its (temporary) owner...< |
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GauravBhabu
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Posted - 01 April 2003 : 08:37:40
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So "Materia Prima" is Greek Or Latin  < |
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HuwR
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Posted - 01 April 2003 : 08:51:59
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| it is Latin, and I will no longer be drawn into an argument where the person constantly adds extra lines to their posts and keeps changing their minds about what they are talking about.< |
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beso
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Posted - 01 April 2003 : 08:52:36
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Actually this little conflict "hurricane in the glass of wather" shows week sides of so called "Free Software" - owner(s) of "Commericial Software" (mostly) newer would give himself right to discuss with client... This is a source of power of MR.BILL
An is it worst to spend your time to make some free soft better if then pseudo owner can cick you out?
Is there a future for Free Soft? Especially in globalized world? May be it is better to spend mizerable 50 USD and get solid commerial product?< |
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Nikkol
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Nikkol
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Posted - 01 April 2003 : 09:02:18
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Originally posted by beso
Is there a future for Free Soft? Especially in globalized world? May be it is better to spend mizerable 50 USD and get solid commerial product?
You are confusing two different things. ANYONE can download and use the software for free. No one is preventing them from doing that.
The forum here is one instance of the software's use in action. As such, the administrators of this forum can operate it any way they see fit.< |
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HuwR
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Posted - 01 April 2003 : 09:05:41
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| look beso, I have warned you several times in this thread not to keep adding to your posts after you have made them, I will not stand for it anymore, either stop doing so, or go elswhere because I will be locking your account.< |
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beso
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Posted - 01 April 2003 : 09:07:56
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The forum here is one instance of the software's use in action. As such, the administrators of this forum can operate it any way they see fit.
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I do not agree you - this forum is also/and MARKETPLACE (Including Advertisment and Support) if this term is good for Free Software< |
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beso
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Posted - 01 April 2003 : 09:10:47
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look beso, I have warned you several times in this thread not to keep adding to your posts after you have made them, I will not stand for it anymore, either stop doing so, or go elswhere because I will be locking your account.
This is my right to change my posts MR.HuwR - newer is written!!! that I can not correct my spelling and contecstual mistakes... do not terorize and bomb me < |
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Don Albus
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Posted - 01 April 2003 : 09:12:44
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| Beso, I'm not that sure you're agreement is very important. As a matter of fact this IS a private forum, you can use as long as the administrators give you the permission.< |
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