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Cliff
Average Member
United States
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 Posted - 18 March 2003 : 21:49:19
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I know (or suspect) base Snitz works in IE and Netscape. I am looking at implementing a modded forum that has a few elements that don't work in Netscape, in particular a javascript menu.
Personally I don't like Netscape, but in order for the forum to be a success I don't want to lose people before they even join.
I am curious as to how many people use Netscape as compared to IE.
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spyordie007
Junior Member
USA
408 Posts |
Posted - 18 March 2003 : 22:37:07
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Dont forget the other important browsers such as Mozilla and Opera! I use Opera most of the time.
As an ex-web developer I would recommend that you make it as compatable as possible, if you come up with some neat idea that doesnt work for some people you need to have an alternative so that your design doesnt stop their visit cold.
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spyordie007
Junior Member
USA
408 Posts |
Posted - 18 March 2003 : 22:38:21
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Oh and BTW, Snitz works good in IE, NS, Mozilla and Opera. The only thing that doesnt work good is if you use some of the colors by their names rather than their hex values since not all browsers will read the color info correctly.
-Spy
EDIT: Time to go back to school, my grammer sucks! |
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Edited by - spyordie007 on 18 March 2003 22:38:51 |
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OneWayMule
Dev. Team Member & Support Moderator
Austria
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
7528 Posts |
Posted - 19 March 2003 : 04:53:39
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Unfortunately I dissagree with working to make things totally compatiable with all browsers especially the older browser versions.
If web developers continue to make things work for these older browsers then people will never upgrade and we'll still be coding for 3.x and 4.x browsers in another 5 years time ! |
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pdrg
Support Moderator
United Kingdom
2897 Posts |
Posted - 19 March 2003 : 05:14:50
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I kinda agree - lets not worry about supporting legacy browsers, but supporting modern versions of netscape, opera, ie, webtv, liberate, [your browser here], is good practice. Sometimes I use Opera, usually IE, and I dislike (modern) Netscapes, but still have to give it credit for having been so important in browser history (anyone else remember just how good netscape 0.97 was?).
And don't forget people using PDA's, WAP, braile readers, speaking browsers, etc. You don't have to create 15 versions of your site, just make sure your site degrades decently accross non-target platforms.
And don't forget Google/[your spider here] can't mine javascript links or flash links, so you're limiting your audience that way too.
In fact, I hate all client-side script. But that's another story :) |
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Cliff
Average Member
United States
501 Posts |
Posted - 19 March 2003 : 08:56:56
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Thanks for the replies. I guess I get caught up in what I think is best. I am a MicroSoft fan, I'm not in IS and not a developer or programmer, just your average end user so I don't look at it from the same perspective as you folks might. I like Office and I like that IE has a familiar look and the menus are similar in their functions too.
Aren't browsers such as Opera and Mozilla pay options? Are there free versions available to use to test the site with? |
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dpmcalister
Junior Member
United Kingdom
161 Posts |
Posted - 19 March 2003 : 09:46:53
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| Both Opera (www.opera.com) and Mozilla (www.mozilla.org) are free (or have free versions). I'm not too keen on Opera myself (as it does funny things to my tables (which Mozilla and IE don't!)). |
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spyordie007
Junior Member
USA
408 Posts |
Posted - 19 March 2003 : 11:21:01
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Originally posted by Gremlin
Unfortunately I dissagree with working to make things totally compatiable with all browsers especially the older browser versions.
If web developers continue to make things work for these older browsers then people will never upgrade and we'll still be coding for 3.x and 4.x browsers in another 5 years time !
Point well taken, perhaps I should rephrase.
You should aim to make your website as compatable as possible with all current browser technology, and as compatable as is reasonably possible for older browsers so that they can still reach the content (or have a javascript redirect to a text only version).
-Spy |
Power - The only narcotic controlled by the SEC, not the FDA.
Prosperity without pollution! The American Hydrogen Association - http://www.ahanw.org
Questions about Hydrogen? Post them on our forum - http://www.ahanw.org/forum |
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spyordie007
Junior Member
USA
408 Posts |
Posted - 19 March 2003 : 11:28:17
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quote:
Originally posted by dpmcalister
Both Opera (www.opera.com) and Mozilla (www.mozilla.org) are free (or have free versions). I'm not too keen on Opera myself (as it does funny things to my tables (which Mozilla and IE don't!)).
Mozilla is "free" and Opera will function if you dont pay with banner adds.
I very often find myself having both Opera and IE open, there are a large number of sites out there that only work in IE so I switch over to it whenever I have a problem viewing their content.
I like Mozilla and use it sometime too, however the UI tends to be a little sluggish at times and I find that quite annoying. If you like Mozilla be sure to check out Phoenix, a "lite" version of Mozilla that runs stand alone, Link:
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/phoenix/
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Power - The only narcotic controlled by the SEC, not the FDA.
Prosperity without pollution! The American Hydrogen Association - http://www.ahanw.org
Questions about Hydrogen? Post them on our forum - http://www.ahanw.org/forum |
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Cliff
Average Member
United States
501 Posts |
Posted - 19 March 2003 : 12:41:08
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Well, I tried both Mozilla and Opera and I have to say I am anything but happy. I did like the products, it would take some time to adjust, but it caused other trouble.
This is my home PC that I installed it on and I have a VPN Portal page that I use to connect to work and map my network drives. Some type of firewall security must have been installed with either Opera or Mozilla because now everytime I try and use the portal some firewall security comes up. It woked fine just this morning.
I uninstalled Opera, Mozilla and the VPN programs. I reinstalled the VPN and I still get the same error.
Any tips? I have to fix this or I can't connect to my work applications. |
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
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Posted - 19 March 2003 : 16:19:34
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| I try to make sites compatible with the current versions of IE, NS, OP as well as 1 generation back from the current release of these same browsers. |
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
7528 Posts |
Posted - 19 March 2003 : 21:20:05
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| Where possible I will try and test with Mac, Windows and Linux versions of those browsers as well, becuase guess what ... some of them don't even render the same between operating systems !! grrr |
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