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Carefree
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 Posted - 24 February 2003 : 13:52:02
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Want some interesting reading?
Look at the timeline of terrorism, the history of assassins, the association of Muslim terrorists with Filipino rebels, the history of Bosnia, and info about the first Muslim religious war.
Do your own research: look up war in Fiji, the Philippines, World War 1's origins, terrorism in Afghanistan, Oman, Kenya, Lebanon, England, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, the Med, etc., etc., etc.
Draw an educated conclusion. |
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wii
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Denmark
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Posted - 24 February 2003 : 15:10:28
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Morten
Junior Member
Denmark
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Posted - 24 February 2003 : 15:22:09
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@Carefree
Jumping from generalising to conclussions involing all people is wrong. You woulden´t proberbly conclude that black people in the US are criminels in general becaurse there are more black people in the US prisons, or ?
We christians have the same bloody story of our religion, in the name of our religion big south-american cultures was destroyed, like the Aztekes, Inks and Aztekes.
That there are people using religion to fight political fights is not new - that dosen´t put those religions on trial. The people using the religions for their own bennefits, whatever its in politic or just to be richer, those people schould be charged.
Religion is just words written in books.
Sorry if this wasen´t educated enough
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wii
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Denmark
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Posted - 24 February 2003 : 15:41:14
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I agree 100%
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Originally posted by Morten
Religion is just words written in books.
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
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Posted - 24 February 2003 : 19:23:21
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Originally posted by wii
I agree 100%
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Originally posted by Morten
Religion is just words written in books.
ditto
But I am not one to tell someone it is something they should NOT believe in. Everyone has a right to believe in their faith, as long as they don't try to force the issue upon me as something I should be following. |
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Carefree
Advanced Member
Philippines
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Posted - 24 February 2003 : 19:52:39
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| One of those references describes the very beginning of Muslim religion, including information about the first leader's invasion of neighboring countries ... to impose his religion. The origin of assassins? The very word comes from the practice of Muslim leaders drugging the would be murderers with hashish so they wouldn't mind dying in the practice of the murder. You'll go to a special heaven if you kill a bunch of children with a car bomb and die while doing it ..... |
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GauravBhabu
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Posted - 24 February 2003 : 20:04:46
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Originally posted by Nikkol
If a criminal pulls a gun on a police officer, does the police officer not have the right to shoot first? If I am threatened when walking down the street, do I not have the right to fight back?
The problem here is the education system, which teaches us "What are our Rights?" It would be a different society if we all could learn what are our Responsibilities?
We Fight for Rigths. How many times we Fight for Responsibilities? |
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Nikkol
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Posted - 24 February 2003 : 20:15:44
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| We do teach responsibilities. I know that I am responsible for being a "good" citizen, for following the law, for paying my taxes, etc.... It seems that in this country (US) there are many more fights for responsibilities then there are for rights. Your average law suit is a fight for responsibilities. |
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Nathan
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USA
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Posted - 25 February 2003 : 02:03:46
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How many americans would fight to keep their RIGHT to vote???
How many americans acutally live up to the RESPONSIBILITY to vote??? |
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LanKuchang
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Malaysia
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Posted - 25 February 2003 : 05:19:23
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Originally posted by Carefree
You'll go to a special heaven if you kill a bunch of children with a car bomb and die while doing it .....
very much a case of jumping to conclusion.
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wii
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Denmark
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Posted - 25 February 2003 : 06:42:12
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Again, I agree 100%
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Originally posted by dayve
But I am not one to tell someone it is something they should NOT believe in. Everyone has a right to believe in their faith, as long as they don't try to force the issue upon me as something I should be following.
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Nikkol
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USA
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Posted - 25 February 2003 : 07:12:15
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Originally posted by Nathan
How many americans would fight to keep their RIGHT to vote???
How many americans acutally live up to the RESPONSIBILITY to vote???
Just because I have the right to do something doesn't mean I have the responsibility to do it. Rather, if I choose to exercise that right, I have the responsibility to act within legal and ethical bounds. |
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Posted - 25 February 2003 : 07:41:17
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...within legal and ethical bounds.
These are not absolute and change in space-time... |
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Nikkol
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jimlord
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USA
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Posted - 25 February 2003 : 13:15:09
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Originally posted by GauravBhabu
The problem here is the education system, which teaches us "What are our Rights?" It would be a different society if we all could learn what are our Responsibilities?
We Fight for Rigths. How many times we Fight for Responsibilities?
Then rephrase it to be more accurate. Doesn't the police officer have a responsibility to shoot first? I think so, as the repercussions of not shooting means that a madman remains loose to inflict more damage.
And where are the protests about Saddam's refusal to disarm? Where are the protests about his horrible atrocities? Why did he win 100% of the vote? Because anyone opposing him would be killed. You don't see Iraqi's marching to support action against Saddam because they and their families would be killed. It's sad that Anti-Americanism is so rampant that a true madman and Hitler-esque dictator is getting away with his atrocities.
I say pull out of France, pull out of Germany, go in and take out Saddam, and watch the people of Iraq celebrate in the streets and ask us "what took the world so long to save us?".
Oil? We could care less. There's plenty of oil in the world, and we can get all we need elsewhere. There are plenty of countries willing to sell oil. But, keep bringing up the oil card, as it is like someone with no arguments calling their opponent names as their only means of arguing. It doesn't make sense. Please give me reasons to support leaving Saddam in office. I dare you. And start with the "someone else would be worse" point so we can list his current rap sheet. |
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