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Alfred
Senior Member

USA
1527 Posts

Posted - 16 February 2003 :  13:36:14  Show Profile  Visit Alfred's Homepage
I have IIS installed, and run localhost to test my web sites before uploading to my server.
I am wondering what it would take to run my own server?
Instead of dumping the computer at the next switch of machines, keeping this one and just leave the box on...
I suppose I would need two ISP connections then, right?

Alfred
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Edited by - Alfred on 16 February 2003 13:39:18

dayve
Forum Moderator

USA
5820 Posts

Posted - 16 February 2003 :  13:46:01  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
Assuming you don't have a fixed ip address, you'll need to use a service like DNS2GO or NO-IP which offers friendly name resolving to a dynamic ip address.

You will not need 2 ISP connections, all you need is a router that you can use to take 1 internet (WAN) connection and forward specific services like IIS to internal addressing machines. This solution is relatively cheap (50-75 bucks depending). Once you decide to do this, you'll have to let us know more about your environment and we can definately help you. I've been hosting a Snitz Forum from my home for 2 years now successfully. I'm quite sure there are enough people here at this forum that can get you on your way rather quickly.

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Alfred
Senior Member

USA
1527 Posts

Posted - 16 February 2003 :  15:03:06  Show Profile  Visit Alfred's Homepage
There is one concern I have though, and that is the need to be connected at all times.
I think most ISPs will drop you if they find out, but it may be ok if I get DSL service...

Alfred
The Battle Group
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Nikkol
Forum Moderator

USA
6907 Posts

Posted - 16 February 2003 :  15:17:14  Show Profile
I wouldn't advise running a forum off of a dial up line.

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Nathan
Help Moderator

USA
7664 Posts

Posted - 16 February 2003 :  15:27:55  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage
Instead of worrying about your internet connection. Find some place to co-locate it.

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dayve
Forum Moderator

USA
5820 Posts

Posted - 16 February 2003 :  15:51:36  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
dial up should not even be considered here, although it is possible, but dial up just doesn't have the bandwidth needed to support running a website effeciently.

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Alfred
Senior Member

USA
1527 Posts

Posted - 16 February 2003 :  16:15:51  Show Profile  Visit Alfred's Homepage
I realize that on the 56K modem it's not practical, although with small volume of traffic it may not matter much. But the ISP issue would be more critical than the speed, as far as I have seen. The ISP is bound to cut you off if you do that.
But as I was saying:
quote:
but it may be ok if I get DSL service?

What do you mean by "co-locate it" Nathan?
I am using my domain for it now...

Alfred
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Nathan
Help Moderator

USA
7664 Posts

Posted - 16 February 2003 :  18:14:25  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage
Some hosting providers let you build your own server and plug it into their network at their hosting facility. Its quite posible that if there are some small ISP's or enthusiast shops in your area then there is a place you can get your sever plugged in.

It can be expensive, but not as expensive as a 'dedicated' server that you rent from some mega corperation in London and never get to actually touch.

Nathan Bales
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Alfred
Senior Member

USA
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Posted - 16 February 2003 :  18:46:53  Show Profile  Visit Alfred's Homepage
But that doesn't sound like an alternative to having a little box running on your spare shelf, I mean economy-wise...?

Alfred
The Battle Group
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator

New Zealand
7528 Posts

Posted - 16 February 2003 :  19:57:17  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
Aim to get DSL or Cable Service then you should be fine becuase both are "always on" types of internet connections then you can just sit your server on your network at home as the webserver.

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Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 16 February 2003 :  20:22:17  Show Profile
Be aware of the dangers. There will be regular attacks on your server once it's on line and if you don't keep up with security issues you may find yourself hacked.

Not all dialup providers disconnect you. I had one here that for about 1-1/2 years supported a small local network with dialup, on 24x7. On rare occasions I was disconnected but ICS took care of auto reconnecting.

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Classicmotorcycling
Development Team Leader

Australia
2085 Posts

Posted - 16 February 2003 :  21:33:06  Show Profile
Why not? I did for 2 years on a 56k modem. Used to be good, but ADSL got cheaper for me here in Australia...
quote:
Originally posted by Nikkol

I wouldn't advise running a forum off of a dial up line.

Other wise I might still be on the 56k modem...


Cheers,

David Greening
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dayve
Forum Moderator

USA
5820 Posts

Posted - 16 February 2003 :  21:41:30  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
you ran a forum off of a dialup? I am not even happy with the speeds I am getting on dsl so I couldn't imagine how dialup would be. how much traffic did you get CM?

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Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 16 February 2003 :  21:46:20  Show Profile
Lots of DSL's here in the US are only about two 56k upstream speed (128K up is pretty common).

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dayve
Forum Moderator

USA
5820 Posts

Posted - 16 February 2003 :  22:22:36  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Doug G

Lots of DSL's here in the US are only about two 56k upstream speed (128K up is pretty common).




I have a 256K upstream package and considering a 384K upstream package $$.

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Alfred
Senior Member

USA
1527 Posts

Posted - 16 February 2003 :  23:24:03  Show Profile  Visit Alfred's Homepage
quote:
Not all dialup providers disconnect you. I had one here that for about 1-1/2 years supported a small local network with dialup, on 24x7. On rare occasions I was disconnected but ICS took care of auto reconnecting.
I am not referring to automatic disconnection, but to the rules of service of most ISPs which exclude running a server from your machine.
Even the cable service provider (ATT) I used to have a while ago before I moved to another area had a clause in the contract to exclude that.

Alfred
The Battle Group
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Edited by - Alfred on 17 February 2003 01:35:34
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