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wii
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Denmark
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Posted - 12 November 2002 :  13:36:30  Show Profile
Wow, RAM really does make a big difference - I just upgraded from 64 to 192MB and everything is so much better, even my ADSL connection is now faster...amazing. Why did I wait so long to upgrade? Oh well, my new PC will have at least 512MB, thatīs for sure...

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yup it is a big diff :0) WOOT WOOT!

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HuwR
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Posted - 12 November 2002 :  20:01:53  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
I wouldn't even entertain having a machine with less than 512, not to program on any way
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@tomic
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Posted - 12 November 2002 :  20:49:04  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage  Send @tomic an ICQ Message
Your computer is probably a lot quieter without all that swapping going on I bet!

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Gremlin
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New Zealand
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Posted - 12 November 2002 :  21:15:48  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
The performance increases do start to scale back though after around 256Mb

These are extremely generalised percentages but it goes something like this.

32-64 something like a 100% performance increase can be expected
64-128 somewhere around 50%
128-256 around 25%
256-512 negligible
512+ not really noticable.

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Edited by - Gremlin on 12 November 2002 21:16:34
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Azaniah
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 November 2002 :  08:42:35  Show Profile  Visit Azaniah's Homepage
This is all true, I just donated an additional 128Mg to my housemate's old PIII and it's definately definately faster. (still slow compared to mine but oh well)...

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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 November 2002 :  10:19:14  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Gremlin

The performance increases do start to scale back though after around 256Mb

These are extremely generalised percentages but it goes something like this.

32-64 something like a 100% performance increase can be expected
64-128 somewhere around 50%
128-256 around 25%
256-512 negligible
512+ not really noticable.



That is rather a bit general, since it would depend what you started with. win2k server won't even install with less than 128, in my experience, you don't normally get much benefit until after you pass about 200Mb, up to this point windows steals most of it for itself and gives very little up for anything else.

Obviously it depends what you do with your PC, but I can consume a gig of ram very rapdily when debugging application code. Under normal day to day running (no programming tools open) my pc runs at around 300Mb of used RAM.

Memory is very cheap now compared to when I bougnt my first 256Mb dimm (Ģ512) so give your machine as much memory as you can afford, you can NEVER give it too much, apart from your cpu it is the single most important thing in your PC.
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sr_erick
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Posted - 13 November 2002 :  13:24:17  Show Profile  Visit sr_erick's Homepage  Send sr_erick a Yahoo! Message
I am pretty sure I have installed Windows 2000 Server on a machine that had 64 megs of RAM. It also had a 350 mhz P2. Man, that thing was slow.




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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 November 2002 :  13:48:11  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
It refused to install for me with only 64Mb, could be the version or the dual procs, but setup told me it reuired 128Mb to install.
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ruirib
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Portugal
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Posted - 13 November 2002 :  14:00:46  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by HuwR

It refused to install for me with only 64Mb, could be the version or the dual procs, but setup told me it reuired 128Mb to install.


And good for you that it did , since the machine would be virtually unusable with such a small amount of RAM. I used to have a PII 333 with 128 MB and Win 2K Pro, and I guess it spent more time swapping between RAM and disk then doing anything else. Using it was just a pain... Now it's sitting in the lab, with 384 MB RAM, and it's still pretty useful...


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HuwR
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Posted - 13 November 2002 :  14:13:50  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
yes I know, but apart from the new 512Mb ones which I was having troubke with, 64 was all I had
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wii
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Denmark
2632 Posts

Posted - 13 November 2002 :  14:55:42  Show Profile
Iīm thinking of buying 128MB more - that should do it ! Then Iīm at 320MB RAM - the limit for my PC is 386MB - yeah, I know, itīs an older machine (spring 1999, PII, 350MHZ, Windows 98), but it works until I buy a new one, but Iīm still amazed on what the RAM has done for the performance.

Btw: I would say performance improved by about 100% from 64MB to 192MB, and yes the PC is more quiet now.

Edited by - wii on 13 November 2002 14:59:54
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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 November 2002 :  16:19:50  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
I would definately add as much as you can, you are still at the point where you will notice improvements.
also, if you use a fixed swap file, you should increase it in line with your ram
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Gremlin
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New Zealand
7528 Posts

Posted - 13 November 2002 :  17:17:11  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
Theres an install Switch to make it install with less than the reccomended levels of memory actually Huwr.

My generalisations weren't based on Server Configurations though as I assumed people here were talking about regular desktop machines.

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Edited by - Gremlin on 13 November 2002 17:17:59
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seven
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USA
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Posted - 13 November 2002 :  19:15:48  Show Profile  Visit seven's Homepage
Unless your doing some heavy duty 3D modeling where 1 gig sometimes isn't enough....

quote:
Originally posted by Gremlin

The performance increases do start to scale back though after around 256Mb

These are extremely generalised percentages but it goes something like this.

32-64 something like a 100% performance increase can be expected
64-128 somewhere around 50%
128-256 around 25%
256-512 negligible
512+ not really noticable.


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Gremlin
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New Zealand
7528 Posts

Posted - 13 November 2002 :  19:54:39  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
True, but then if you were doing heavy-duty modelling you wouldnt be using just one machine unless you really really were forced to either :) great use for a Beowulf cluster or something similar.

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