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BJORN
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Posted - 24 September 2002 :  13:55:15  Show Profile  Visit BJORN's Homepage
http://www.ukonline.gov.uk/featurenews/iraqdossier.pdf

http://www.pm.gov.uk/files/pdf/iraqdossier.pdf

http://news.mod.uk/news_headline_story.asp?newsItem_id=2023

http://www.fco.gov.uk/iraq/dossier

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/oicd/iraqdossier.pd

http://www.official-documents.co.uk/document/reps/iraq/cover.htm

http://www.cabinet-office.gov.uk/iraqdossier.pdf

http://194.203.40.18/no10/iraqdossier.pdf

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crash
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Netherlands
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Posted - 24 September 2002 :  19:44:45  Show Profile  Visit crash's Homepage
that must've taken you a while to find those links... but since it's been all over the news...

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TestMagic
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USA
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Posted - 24 September 2002 :  20:00:42  Show Profile  Visit TestMagic's Homepage
Oh, I ignored this post. I thought it was spam.

How about a synopsis in the post? That might help.

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crash
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Netherlands
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Posted - 25 September 2002 :  01:10:41  Show Profile  Visit crash's Homepage
i felt like replying... maybe this ought to be locked? maybe not...

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Roland
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Netherlands
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Posted - 25 September 2002 :  05:06:02  Show Profile
The UK government placed their dossier about Irak online yesterday around 9am CET (Central European Time). It is supposed to contain information about Irak manufacturing chemical weapons and god knows what kind of awful poo.

To be honest, I think a lot of it is BS and fuelled by Bush's hungre to have America in war with someone. Seeing how they're pretty much done in Pakistan, he needs some place new to fight, so why not go after someone everyone knows: Sadam.
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Doug G
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USA
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Posted - 25 September 2002 :  05:56:03  Show Profile
The text of the dossier is newsworthy fact, I found it interesting reading. But if this thread becomes opinionated I'll lock it or delete it.

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ruirib
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Posted - 25 September 2002 :  06:08:36  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
I think it's interesting indeed. And the contents should be a cause for concern. It's pretty obvious Saddam is a menace, it has been so and it will continue to be, so someome should take care of it. Of course, with the honourable exception of Britain, Europe will wait for the US to do the dirty work for them.



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Posted - 25 September 2002 :  11:08:53  Show Profile
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Of course, with the honourable exception of Britain, Europe will wait for the US to do the dirty work for them.


I'm exactly the opposite opinion, but I will not make them public here with the risk of being locked

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BJORN
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Posted - 25 September 2002 :  15:21:52  Show Profile  Visit BJORN's Homepage
On:
I have read it yesterday because if there is going to be a war agains iraq, i want to know what the reason for all this hasle was.
This topic is not to make any fush or terror in the forums but to see what you guys tought of it.
Everybody i know around me talks about this situation all day, and the same as the Israel & Pakistan conflict. That's weird and if you have see the internet, people are constantly talking about it.
I really do not know what to think about this holl situation.
All seems to turn very quick around.

Off:

People could not get to this site for a long time and what i dont like is to surf to a website where i have to search like minimum 3 pages to get to it i posted this link and takes me a half a hour to get to, An other thing was that most people could not find these links or document.

I hope this is the right category to post in. Because i tought that the: Community Discussions (All other subjects) was for just any topic ?

Why most this topic be closed ?

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Roland
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Netherlands
9335 Posts

Posted - 25 September 2002 :  15:33:29  Show Profile
I think Doug wants/wanted to prevent some war about who's right and who's wrong concerning this subject by locking this topic if it should lean in that direction. He's right, but I do believe we should be able to voice our opinions as long as they're not harmful to others.
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Posted - 25 September 2002 :  16:32:58  Show Profile
Sure FrutZle, but this is deep in the politics. I also know that Doug G is against locking/deleting topics unless there is an absolute need to do so.

For example check this link: http://reefs.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19466&highlight=iraq

That forum is about corals & reefs, not on politics, but people dare to speak. Run a search with "Iraq" on that site and read some of the posts... You will see what I mean!

Can words be as harmful as bombs are?

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Posted - 25 September 2002 :  16:42:05  Show Profile
If somebody wants to argue here, please enlighten me on the following and give answers to these questions by Congressman Ron Paul (U.S. House of Representatives):
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2002/cr091002.htm

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HuwR
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United Kingdom
20595 Posts

Posted - 25 September 2002 :  20:10:32  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
Well, I wil have may say too, having lived and worked in Iraq for almost a year (just prior to the Gulf War) I have some idea what the people are like and how they have to live.

Saddam is a tyrant who rules his country by fear and oppresion, it should be for the benefit of the Iraqi's that he is removed, not because he poses some 'so called' threat.
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@tomic
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USA
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Posted - 25 September 2002 :  20:28:49  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage  Send @tomic an ICQ Message
quote:
Saddam is a tyrant who rules his country by fear and oppresion, it should be for the benefit of the Iraqi's that he is removed, not because he poses some 'so called' threat.


I agree. Saddam is a threat only to oil interests in the region and his weapons of mass destruction(including nuclear weapons) are great is a detterent. Using any of them at any point ends the detterent aspect so I scratch my head over his being a "threat" to much of anything. I just read the link Bozden posted above and that's basically what I was thinking when I started typing this. it irritates me how my government twists the truth or just flat out lies. The points about al-Qaeda members being in "Kurd held areas" and the huge stretch to link Iraq to al-Qaeda are sadly lost on most people that don't like to check the facts themselves.

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Posted - 25 September 2002 :  22:27:13  Show Profile
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Originally posted by HuwR


Saddam is a tyrant who rules his country by fear and oppresion, it should be for the benefit of the Iraqi's that he is removed, not because he poses some 'so called' threat.


I have the same idea, but this is something that Iraqi's must decide and accomplish. What would you think if people from other countries "decide" to drop the "W" there?

When it comes to war, Turkey will be in real **** as it was in 1991. We don't want "to do the dirty work" for anybody, and it seems that we have to "because of our depts to IMF".

We suffered too much from the terrorism & war in the south-east Anatolia (i.e. the Kurd issues). It is the main reason of economic & social problems and anti-democratic status we live here... Man, more than 30.000 people died there in the last 20 years .

I'm not against the Kurds (we live together very nicely), but that **** militarists, nationalists & terrorists (from both side) cause problems! After a possible war, the Kurdish groups on North Iraq will gain more power (USA will feed them with money and guns) and there is the risk of a Kurdish state there. This will encourage a lot of more wars around here!

I too can be called to the army! It can just be too easy to speak out of the "American Way of Living"...

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TestMagic
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USA
1568 Posts

Posted - 25 September 2002 :  23:49:34  Show Profile  Visit TestMagic's Homepage
Nice to hear another perspective...

This may be a stupid question, but...

Are there any Iraqi's out there?

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