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marcus_giles
Starting Member

United Kingdom
4 Posts

Posted - 21 August 2002 :  15:08:57  Show Profile  Visit marcus_giles's Homepage
Hi all

Main issue:
I tried out Snitz earlier this year and one of my reasons for not using it was that it wouldn't send email on my server. I use easily.co.uk as my host and they run (with paths):

MySql 3.22.32 Test Path /users/username/web/...
Apache 1.3 CGI /web/username/cgi-bin/
Perl 5.0005 Perl #!/usr/bin/perl
Php 4 (module)

There are no components such as ChilliMail installed and none can be installed so that leaves me with /usr/sbin/sendmail AFAIK.

I got PHP4 working with this but despite several hundred searches found nothing that would do the job in ASP without a component. It appeared to be that way with the older 3.3.03 Snitz.

Has anything changed?
Am I doing something wrong?
Can a new MOD be written?

Sideline issue:
Did you know that the email notification to join this forum fails when you click the link sent to you (says code invalid), but actually succeeds and lets you in?

Any help appreciated - I would really like to use this

Marcus

Rasco
Advanced Member

Germany
3192 Posts

Posted - 21 August 2002 :  16:07:36  Show Profile  Send Rasco an ICQ Message
AFAIK, you still need an ActiveX mail component, so sendmail alone wouldn`t work.

German Snitz Forum
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marcus_giles
Starting Member

United Kingdom
4 Posts

Posted - 21 August 2002 :  17:43:46  Show Profile  Visit marcus_giles's Homepage
That's how I understand things and I'm now left wondering why PHP can work and ASP can't. Given I'm an ASP person I don't know much about PHP - it may well be using a component.
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20595 Posts

Posted - 21 August 2002 :  17:59:18  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
because php is not asp, and works differently which is why it can use the unix sendmail script
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marcus_giles
Starting Member

United Kingdom
4 Posts

Posted - 21 August 2002 :  22:24:22  Show Profile  Visit marcus_giles's Homepage
So is it a definative answer that I won't be able to get email notification working on my web server as defined above unless another component is installed? Can any MOD be written to do this or should I start looking at other BBs?

Marcus :(
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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin

USA
16655 Posts

Posted - 21 August 2002 :  22:43:53  Show Profile
PHP is written to work on Unix servers as well as Windows servers. PHP can access unix's sendmail utility for sending e-mails. ASP is written to work on Windows servers.

Chili!Soft wants you to have to buy the Spicepack from them. The only way I know of sending e-mail via ASP on Chili!Soft ASP is with Chili!Mail that is available in the SpicePack.

In my opinion, if a Host is going to offer ASP support via Chili!Soft ASP on a Unix/Linux server, then they should also have Chili!Mail installed as well.
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bax
Junior Member

141 Posts

Posted - 21 August 2002 :  22:49:27  Show Profile
Check with your ISP - maybe they already have the Spicepack. I didn't see it listed under their options, but I didn't see it NOT listed, either.
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Brett Alcock
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65 Posts

Posted - 06 September 2002 :  14:08:48  Show Profile
I too have exactly the same problem with easily.co.uk.
I believe they do have the SpiceRack installed but have not chosen to enable the ChilliMail object from the control panel. I have repeatedly asked them to do so but they just don't respond.

Would it be possible for the forum to send mail details to a 'specified' page, so that a page written in cgi employing the sendmail utility could be used instead?

I don't know much about php/cgi/perl or even sendmail but I am sure there are examples out there I could use.

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bax
Junior Member

141 Posts

Posted - 14 September 2002 :  02:34:48  Show Profile
Brett:

Sure, you could do something like this. Whereever you need it to send mail, just have the form post to a cgi page instead. It would require a whole bunch of editing of the forum code, tho, I think. Might be easier to keep bugging the ISP, and tell them you'll start looking elsewhere if they can't enable it. I would think if they're running ChiliASP, they'd be willing to enable this component. If not, I think a new ISP might be a good option.
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20595 Posts

Posted - 14 September 2002 :  04:38:39  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
quote:

I have repeatedly asked them to do so but they just don't respond.



Regardles of what your host does or doesn't offer, this should be your sole reason for leaving them and going elsewhere. If they just ignore you, then you should look for someone who cares about their clients
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Brett Alcock
New Member

65 Posts

Posted - 15 September 2002 :  07:29:04  Show Profile
OK solution posted http://forum.snitz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=34412 comments or improvements welcome.
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