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gorman
Starting Member
Italy
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 Posted - 20 August 2002 : 12:23:49
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First I want to stress that this post is not ill-meant or anything.
I'm currently happily running a 3.3 version with some mods. It's all been translated in Italian, too.
To switch to 3.4 and reinstall all the mods I have will be quite some work.
As such, I'm wondering... how does the new release compare to other forums? V-Bullettin, Yabb, XMB, phpBB? Is Snitz really the best I could run with? Because of the work involved in upgrading to 3.4 I might as well be changing forum, so...
Anybody that could provide me with some informed opinion regarding this? |
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Rasco
Advanced Member
Germany
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Posted - 20 August 2002 : 12:35:41
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Just can say, that V3.4 is pretty fast.
I`am working on another site with UBB and it`s much slower.
I think, there couldn`t be any comparisons, yet.
Also, this is a matter of personal taste |
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gorman
Starting Member
Italy
47 Posts |
Posted - 20 August 2002 : 12:37:24
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| A matter of taste, definitely. But there are objective parameters that one can take in evaluating forum performances, I believe. Server load and so on, for instance. |
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Roland
Advanced Member
Netherlands
9335 Posts |
Posted - 20 August 2002 : 12:38:17
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You cannot compare a PHP forum to an ASP forum as the languages used to make them are very different. You could however go to some sites that use the different forums and measure the times (or look at the timers).
You might be pleasantly surprised about Snitz 3.4. Someone tested an early version of 3.4 against some PHP forums on his local machine and Snitz 3.4 passed the test and left the others in the dust. |
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gorman
Starting Member
Italy
47 Posts |
Posted - 20 August 2002 : 13:26:56
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Originally posted by FrutZle
You might be pleasantly surprised about Snitz 3.4. Someone tested an early version of 3.4 against some PHP forums on his local machine and Snitz 3.4 passed the test and left the others in the dust.
This is the sort of info that I'm looking for... I know ASP and PHP are different, but if they are used to do the same kind of things (ie. forums) a comparison should/could be made. I'm just wondering if somebody ever did some real tests and comparisons, I looked with Google but couldn't find any comparative testing of different forums... |
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dhunter65
Starting Member
USA
1 Posts |
Posted - 23 August 2002 : 13:20:00
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I'm interested in this kind of analysis as well. I'm trying to determine which forum software would be best to run on Win2000 platform. I've worked with Snitz & phpBB, both on WinNT and have been impressed with both. However, I have a potentially large contract opportunity to implement a discussion forum and want to make sure that I make the right decision.
If anyone knows of a performance analysis comparing Snitz to other open source bulletin boards, please post a link here.
Thanks
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davemaxwell
Access 2000 Support Moderator
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 23 August 2002 : 14:30:34
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Like they said, it's hard to compare. ASP typically outperforms PHP on Win servers, but PHP almost always outperforms ASP on LINUX/UNIX servers.
Plus there are other variables such as server load (how many sites are on a server), database type (SQL Server will beat Access and MySQL if set up properly. MySQL will beat Access and sometimes MSSQL), knowledge of people setting up forums, etc.
It's all a matter of taste. Some people like the phpBB look and feel, some like Snitz. Some people like how phpBB is skinned, others like to dig into changing Snitz. Just a matter of taste. |
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davemaxwell
Access 2000 Support Moderator
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 23 August 2002 : 14:31:52
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| I would say that before most of the php board beat out Snitz in performance, but now that 3.4 is out, I would say there is a stiff competition.... |
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Roland
Advanced Member
Netherlands
9335 Posts |
Posted - 23 August 2002 : 14:47:19
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Originally posted by davemaxwell
I would say that before most of the php board beat out Snitz in performance, but now that 3.4 is out, I would say there is a stiff competition....
I believe that that was Nathan's conclusion too after having run 3.4RC2 on his computer, right next to some PHP forums (not sure which).
Also, what I'd like to add is that looks can be deceiving (sp?). Snitz might look really basic, but thanks to the easy look (and pretty basic layout except for the nested table to get the table borders) it's quite easy to customize the look. I heard that completely customizing the look of the more popular PHP forums is a lot harder, but they mostly come with a prett good look... if that's what you like and don't mind having your forums look exactly like every other user of those forums. |
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SenderoSoftware
Starting Member
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sji2671
Junior Member
United Kingdom
185 Posts |
Posted - 23 August 2002 : 15:16:26
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Originally posted by SenderoSoftware
What are the chances of providing a skinned option, say to offer the looks of phpBB offer.
A pre-defined set of skins may be a nice addition.
I think that would have to be left to the Mod guys, in the end everyone's website's are different, and therefore the look and colour scheme's people want differ. If nothing else it is very easy to change the general look of the board without digging too deep.
The beauty of Snitz, especially 3.4 is that you get a fully functional,fast and feature rich forum which you can modify yourself to get the look you desire.
Offering skins would just gave everyone the same look again, even if it was a bit easier on the eye, better to take a great product and enjoy the feeling of making it your own in some small way  |
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Roland
Advanced Member
Netherlands
9335 Posts |
Posted - 23 August 2002 : 15:17:51
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snaayk
Senior Member
USA
1061 Posts |
Posted - 23 August 2002 : 15:50:05
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One of the things that ONE has to consider is, and most important really, is which of the languages are you most comfortable with. If you know how to code in ASP, why would you switch to a PHP based forum? And vice-versa. Especially where business is involved, you stick to what you know so that you can make educated decisions.
On the flip side, if you are picking a language to learn then there are a lot of other things to consider (including but not limited to the things mentioned above), and there is also the fact that you may be willing to learn an additional language.
Or, if you know nothing whatsoever of coding, then you must go with what your team knows or the type of support you can get or expect to get. |
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wii
Free ASP Hosts Moderator
Denmark
2632 Posts |
Posted - 23 August 2002 : 16:23:13
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| I´m going to test all the forums that can run on Windows for testing...give me a day, and I will post the links right here. |
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bax
Junior Member
141 Posts |
Posted - 24 August 2002 : 00:08:29
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| wii - that would be awesome - can you set up some serious load? Something like 10,000 or 50,000 total posts and replies in the forums? I'm really curious. I'd also be curious to know how adding indexes to the db might improve performance. Obviously, under load it will, but how much would be interesting to know... |
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Maarten
Starting Member
Netherlands
22 Posts |
Posted - 24 August 2002 : 11:36:20
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I don't think it would be a fair competition to compare snitz with for example phpBB. phpBB standard has a LOT more options then snitz at this moment. Things like private messaging etc etc.
It's like comparing an egg with an apple imho. |
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