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Fuzion
Junior Member
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 Posted - 14 July 2002 : 15:45:34
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Sorry im just a little pissed right now.. you guys make all these advanced mods but why is it so hard to agree that BANNING SOMEONE WITH A COOKIE WILL DO THE JOB and create a mod for that. Your thinking right now.. "Well someone can just delete their cookies, or that specific cookie and get access to the site again".. LOOK! My site members, and most site members on other peoples forums mostly dont have a friggin idea what a cookie is, or how to delete it. Dont get me wrong, there are people that come to my site that have some advanced or intermediate knowledge of computers and how to delete cookies etc.. But the MAJORITY dont.. That is why banning my cookies is the most effective. The current BAN IP mod bans someones IP only, what if their IP is Dynamic and not static? You still have a problem there. Someone having a Dynamic Ip and being able to access your site again after being banned is a higher statistic. You might have 40 users that have a dynamic IP on your site and only 3 users on your site that actually know how to delete the cookie and regain access to your site if they were banned. I mean come on guys.. There is no fool proof way to do this, but banning by cookie so far is the best way. Why cant someone design a mod to at least test this system out, and to see how effective it really is. If i had the ASP knowledge i would of done it already, but ive only gained enough knowledge to get around. I know someone already put together a ban by cookie mod, please dont include this in your reply because it basically doesnt work from my tests, (im using a crash's portal system)
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Roland
Advanced Member
Netherlands
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Posted - 14 July 2002 : 15:51:48
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To the best of my knowledge there is a MOD that combines several different ways of banning: cookie, IP, logging on with username of banned member. Why don't you try a search instead of posting something like this? Or ohhh... nice idea here: try to ask politely.
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Fuzion
Junior Member
162 Posts |
Posted - 14 July 2002 : 16:00:02
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Wasnt this post polite and straight to the point? I was just venting and I did control myself and got my point across on why Ban By Cookie would be most effective dont you agree? Yes its true that i should of went and looked for the mod, but i wasnt aware it existed, because i have been comming to this forum everday since i found it and never came across any such mod that combined Ban By Ip and Ban By Cookie. Will go look now.. Thanx for the info
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Edited by - Fuzion on 14 July 2002 16:01:03 |
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Fuzion
Junior Member
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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin
USA
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Roland
Advanced Member
Netherlands
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Nikkol
Forum Moderator
USA
6907 Posts |
Posted - 14 July 2002 : 19:15:56
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Yeah, but Fuzion specifically stated ...
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I know someone already put together a ban by cookie mod, please dont include this in your reply because it basically doesnt work from my tests, (im using a crash's portal system)
But my thought then is why doesn't Fuzion ask at crash's site?
Fuzion, the thing is, in order to create a MOD, you have to know the code you'll be modifying and since these forums are specific to modifications on the base code of snitz, you should you ask someone that is more familiar with the code you are using.
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Davio
Development Team Member
Jamaica
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Posted - 15 July 2002 : 01:21:09
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It's in my plans to include the option of banning by cookies also to the ban ip mod, but I haven't had the time. When I created the ban by ip mod, I made it because that was what everyone at the time kept asking for. They wanted to ban users by thier ip. The conversation about banning by cookie was never brought up back then. Most likely because the users only knew to ban users ip's. So I gave them such a mod. I don't use it myself. But it kept them happy.
Months later, someone thought of extending this, by banning users by cookie and yes it seemed a much better idea to do so. So a mod was created for that. I basically create a mod because a lot of users demand it. The mod doesn't have to make sense, the users want it anyway.
But I don't see why you have to be so angry. I guess because you want to ban some guys on your forum but the ban ip mod isn't cutting it for you? And you can't get the ban by cookie mod to work? 
Banning someone from the forum isn't always a fool proof plan. Along with other mods you can prevent users from coming back on your forum and making trouble.
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Fuzion
Junior Member
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Posted - 15 July 2002 : 15:34:20
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I was the one that brought up the idea to ban users by Cookie back then davio :) I used another SN though. ****, that was a long time ago, back when sr1 just came out and was DA BOMB. Anyways, no i dont have anyone busting my chops yet and pushing me to ban them on my website, but thinking of someone doing that and me not being able to use the Ban By IP mod to ban them because of one reason or another (such as them having a Dynamic IP, etc..) just gets me mad. I had one user that did that to me, i felt powerless because i could only delete his account and his posts.. but he kept comming back under new accounts, and posting nonsense in the forums, and my moderators kept having to delete his posts like every 5 minutes. Its not very fun, i can tell you that much. And by the way.. I didnt know that you released the Ban By Cookie MOD.. Could you please point me towards it? And frutz.. your were incorrect that (the post that you replied to) isnt a Ban By IP MOD that incorporates the Cookie function. Its not even an addon to the Ban By IP mod.. and ive tried it with the portal version of what im using.. doesnt work. 
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Davio
Development Team Member
Jamaica
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Posted - 15 July 2002 : 16:50:56
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No I didn't create the Ban by Cookie mod. Someone else did. Should be able to find it in the Mod W/Code forum. I was wanting to add it to my existing Ban by IP mod but haven't had the time.
After 3.4 is released I will be working on updating all my mods. 3.4 should be out within a week or 2.
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Nikkol
Forum Moderator
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Posted - 15 July 2002 : 17:23:45
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quote:
3.4 should be out within a week or 2.
WooHoo!
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seven
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 16 July 2002 : 08:33:02
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I can't understand what would prompt you to want to ban anyone from your message boards.
They can't swear... Snitz takes care of that.
Maybe those that want to block people from their boards should
focus on correcting the issues that prompt you to want to block them in the first place.
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Nikkol
Forum Moderator
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6907 Posts |
Posted - 16 July 2002 : 08:41:43
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airlim, some forums get morons who like to post bunches of gibberish or offensive content, making it a necessity to ban them. and it's rather hard to correct the "issue" if the person is an idiot. 
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Fuzion
Junior Member
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Posted - 16 July 2002 : 14:33:31
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That is truely correct Nikkol. Not to mention spammers, people that constantly post adult content on your board, people that threaten other people on your board, etc.. The list goes on and on with why the need to ban someone would come in handy.
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snaayk
Senior Member
USA
1061 Posts |
Posted - 17 July 2002 : 15:25:47
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is it possible to check to see if a file exists in, lets say the internet temporary files folder. Like an image? something nobody would want to delete? And use this as another method to ban. I have no need, but you never know
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