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smc954t
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Posted - 17 April 2002 :  16:31:51  Show Profile
We're using Snitz Forums 2000 at our university, but we need it to be completely accessible to those with disabilities. This would include adding alt tags to all of the images and labels to all of the form fields.

I'd hate to begin doing this to our implementation then have to "re-do" the changes if we upgrade to a newer version of the code.

Have you all discussed this idea before? We'd be willing to help identify the accessibility issues, if there's interest.

Thanks.
Sara Clark
Web Coordinator
Southwest Missouri State University


tophman
Starting Member

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Posted - 13 June 2002 :  18:09:00  Show Profile
Sara,
This is something that I am extremely interested in as well- I've looked around a lot and have found that most message board software is extremely inaccessible to people with disabilities. I'd be interested to hear about Snitz and what efforts are being made in that direction. I have found a few good resources out there- email me off the board if you would like to hear more--
Christopher
webmaster@trisped.westhost.com

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Posted - 13 June 2002 :  19:41:29  Show Profile
Although I don't think there are important issues with ALT tags, it will help us if we can discuss it here. I'll be going through the whole code while working towards v4, and it will be nice also consider these issues so that v4 also solves accessibility issues other than the language/locale related ones . I hope at least most of them can be solved without effecting the nature and performance.

Will be fine if you can be around to test the results and provide feedback.

Bulent Ozden


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Nathan
Help Moderator

USA
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Posted - 13 June 2002 :  20:13:26  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage
If your going to talk about covering accessability, then fill up the title attributes as well.

Nathan Bales
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Posted - 13 June 2002 :  20:22:47  Show Profile
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If your going to talk about covering accessability, then fill up the title attributes as well.

Nathan Bales
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I saw a lot of them filled in v3.4 already.


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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin

USA
16655 Posts

Posted - 13 June 2002 :  20:33:48  Show Profile
I've looked for info about using LABEL with form fields, but I don't really understand exactly what it's supposed to do. (other than being able to assign an ACCESSKEY)

Just doesn't seem to do anything worthwhile.

we already use alt tags pretty extensively. We are using more of them in v3.4.
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Doug G
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USA
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Posted - 13 June 2002 :  21:24:45  Show Profile
Richard I think label may be used by page talkers?

I recall a fairly long post about disabled access a year or so ago, but darned if I can find it.



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blackinwhite
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Turkey
657 Posts

Posted - 14 June 2002 :  04:51:58  Show Profile
you may get rid of all the images as I did here:

http://www.ismailk.net/dizin/forum_default.asp

or work mule had made another interesting view of forums (named Delphi style I think, you can search here.)

It's more accesible and use less images.

I personally like to see a lite version of Snitz with less images possible. This would be possible to on/off all the images from the admin panel.



Edited by - blackinwhite on 14 June 2002 04:53:23
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mios
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United Kingdom
101 Posts

Posted - 14 June 2002 :  09:40:30  Show Profile  Send mios an ICQ Message
quote:

I've looked for info about using LABEL with form fields, but I don't really understand exactly what it's supposed to do. (other than being able to assign an ACCESSKEY)

Just doesn't seem to do anything worthwhile.

we already use alt tags pretty extensively. We are using more of them in v3.4.



LABEL is fantastic. It's matches some text up to some form control. So for screen readers and such it knows that a certain check box has some text attached to it.

It also has a nice feature for normal browsers. Try out the following code :


<form>
<fieldset>
<LEGEND>Some Check Boxes</LEGEND>
<input type=checkbox name=a id=a><label for="a">Select A</label>
<input type=checkbox name=b id=b><label for="b">Select B</label>
<input type=checkbox name=c id=c><label for="b">Select C</label>
</fieldset>
</form>


When you view this in a browser, instead of just being able to click on the checkbox, you can also click on the associated text.

This works in IE5 > and also NN6



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blackinwhite
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Turkey
657 Posts

Posted - 19 June 2002 :  17:47:52  Show Profile
quote:

I've looked for info about using LABEL with form fields, but I don't really understand exactly what it's supposed to do. (other than being able to assign an ACCESSKEY)

Just doesn't seem to do anything worthwhile.

we already use alt tags pretty extensively. We are using more of them in v3.4.



Accesskey tag is a really cool tag. In the beta version of Yahoo mail, this tag is extensively used, for example for checking mail (instead of clicking the link, you can use CTRL+Shift+C).

here is a good explanation of the tag, and its areas of use.

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/accesskey.html

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blackinwhite
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Turkey
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Posted - 20 June 2002 :  07:15:45  Show Profile
for other additional info about more accesibile forsm, you can also see this:

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/#spec

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blackinwhite
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Turkey
657 Posts

Posted - 20 June 2002 :  07:49:38  Show Profile
a good post, named Good Form Design, from CHI list.

ps. I expect that my posts are not considered as spam. (please warn if it's so.)



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Posted - 20 June 2002 :  09:46:48  Show Profile
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ps. I expect that my posts are not considered as spam. (please warn if it's so.)



I don't think so .

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