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Roland
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Netherlands
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Posted - 04 April 2002 :  06:34:08  Show Profile
As suggested by OneWayMule in this topic: http://forum.snitz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=25387

I have made a couple small changes to my active.asp and put it online: http://www.frutzle.com/forum/active.asp
You can take a look there to see it in action. The page WILL be locked for non-members again in a couple days.

If anyone wants to know what exactly should be changed, reply to this topic and I'll put together the instructions.



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HuwR
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Posted - 04 April 2002 :  07:06:32  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
rather than add an extra image to every topic, would it not have been
less hassle just to change the target for the current link ?

My reasons for my original comments are this, many many people make suggestions here for improving the performance of the code and the queeries, but this is a far bigger user of bandwidth than performing 200 queeries, you are adding an extra 200 image downloads instead, none of the icons in the forum are cached, Iknow they are small, but several visitors each loading several hundread images can make quite an impact on your websites bandwidth useage.

Plus, this is what your browsers popup menu is for, teach people how to use it, they will have a much better browsing experiance if they learn how to use their computer.

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Roland
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Netherlands
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Posted - 04 April 2002 :  07:36:12  Show Profile
HuwR, I use active.asp all the time and having to right-click on each topic to open it in a new window is really quite annoying. The image could just as well be a text link, but there is a valid reason for people asking for that extra functionality.



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Roland
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Netherlands
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Posted - 04 April 2002 :  08:01:17  Show Profile
Addition: http://www.frutzle.com/forum/active2.asp
The folder icon will now open the topic in a new window while the topic title link will open the topic in the same window. No extra icons to load but highly confusing.



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HuwR
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Posted - 04 April 2002 :  08:10:55  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
actually I prefer it that way, why is it more confusing?

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HuwR
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Posted - 04 April 2002 :  08:12:52  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
quote:

HuwR, I use active.asp all the time and having to right-click on each topic to open it in a new window is really quite annoying. The image could just as well be a text link, but there is a valid reason for people asking for that extra functionality.



So do I, I never use any other means of enterring the forum. Call me a purist, but I don't see the point in adding extra code to duplicate functionality which you already have.

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Roland
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Netherlands
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Posted - 04 April 2002 :  08:19:13  Show Profile
It's more confusing because the link should have the same function as the icon. At least that's rationally speaking because that's the way it is on forum.asp too.
I've added <acronym> tags around the text link to show that the page will open in the same window and I edited the alt text for the icons to show the page will open in a new window.

I prefer the "extra icon" method and will probably add it to forum.asp too.
Another even easier way to get it all done is by creating a second active.asp that simply has all links opening in a new window. No need for extra icons or adding alt text to links and icons. It's a simple action of adding target=""_blank"" to two link tags.



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HuwR
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Posted - 04 April 2002 :  08:21:56  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
I still prefer the no extra code or images right mouse click option , but each to his own as we say.

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Roland
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Netherlands
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Posted - 04 April 2002 :  08:33:37  Show Profile
quote:

I still prefer the no extra code or images right mouse click option , but each to his own as we say.



You wouldn't say that if you had my right-click menu: http://www.frutzle.com/temp/contextmenu.jpg

By the way, that's a 1600x1200 resolution.



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HuwR
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Posted - 04 April 2002 :  08:45:19  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
forgive for being dumb, but isn't the 'Open in new window' still the second option in your popup ? It NEVER moves fom that position, all the other stuff ALWAYS gets added below it.

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Roland
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Netherlands
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Posted - 04 April 2002 :  08:47:57  Show Profile
Right, so I right-click and then have to move my cursor all the way up to open the link in a new window. PITA if you don't have a mouse, especially when there's such an easy way around having to use the context menu.



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HuwR
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Posted - 04 April 2002 :  09:23:52  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
if you don't have a mouse your going to find it pretty difficult to click on the image too

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Steve D.
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Posted - 04 April 2002 :  10:41:34  Show Profile  Visit Steve D.'s Homepage  Send Steve D. a Yahoo! Message
What about making this an option in the user's profile. They can turn on or off the New Window functionality. This way there would be no extra icons and both the folder and the Topic title would open in a new window if the option was set to yes.

Thoughts?

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Roland
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Netherlands
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Posted - 04 April 2002 :  11:03:06  Show Profile
When I said that I don't have a mouse I meant that I have a touchpad. Moving your finger up that darn plate 3 times is a lot more annoying than having to move your wrist.

Steve, an easier solution would be to add a select case statement and a simple pull down list which you can set to "new window" or "same window". I'm not going any further with this right now. Perhaps for the next version of the forums I will.



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Aaron S.
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Posted - 04 April 2002 :  11:03:53  Show Profile  Visit Aaron S.'s Homepage
Actually, I would make it an option at the top of the active.asp page so the user has some context.

It could be set the same way the other active.asp options are set like Active Topics Since and Reload Page.

Basically, it could say:

Make links appear in new window: checkbox

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@tomic
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Posted - 04 April 2002 :  12:52:11  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage  Send @tomic an ICQ Message
If right clicking is such a problem, ctrl-O works pretty well to open a link in a new window.

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