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El Matador
Junior Member

192 Posts

Posted - 27 March 2002 :  18:27:45  Show Profile
Just one problem. I installed long ago Richard Kinser's "hide e-mail MOD", and it works...to a point. Because when I try to send someone an e-mail, if I right-click the pop_mail window and select "view source", the person's e-mail is revealed in the HTML. However, this does not happen in this Snitz forum, so thre is obviously a "cure" and I have asked a few times for information regarding how to fix the problem. Still waiting......

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Aaron S.
Average Member

USA
985 Posts

Posted - 27 March 2002 :  18:30:49  Show Profile  Visit Aaron S.'s Homepage
Your in luck... I just implemented this and have the topic fresh in my history:

http://forum.snitz.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=6759



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mark d
Starting Member

Australia
18 Posts

Posted - 27 March 2002 :  19:37:46  Show Profile
quote:

Just one problem. I installed long ago Richard Kinser's "hide e-mail MOD", and it works...to a point. Because when I try to send someone an e-mail, if I right-click the pop_mail window and select "view source", the person's e-mail is revealed in the HTML. However, this does not happen in this Snitz forum, so thre is obviously a "cure" and I have asked a few times for information regarding how to fix the problem. Still waiting......





Hi El Matador

I think the question you are asking (re: this Snitz forum) is the same one that I asked at the beginning of this topic. If so, have a look at Richard's reply underneath it. They haven't used the Hide Email mod, but have changed the code.

As you say, if you view the source you will only see your addy, but as far as I can tell(?) the only problem with this is that even though their addy is not revealed, members don't get a choice as to whether they want messages sent to them or not, whereas with the Hide Email mod they do get that option to block messages being sent to them, but if they do prefer to have messages sent, then their addy is shown, which then leaves them open to harvesters.

I think what I have said is correct(?). If so, I wonder if both methods can be combined somehow, giving the members the choice to allow messages to be sent to them if they want, as well as hiding the addy when doing so?

Do you know if that's possible Richard?

Thanks
mark d
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El Matador
Junior Member

192 Posts

Posted - 27 March 2002 :  20:02:33  Show Profile
Hi Mark d, the posts you refer to are dated March 2002, and I asked about his on late 2001 or early 2002. And as I recall, I was not the only one who asked.

For your information, the recipient's e-mail address shows up in the source, not just mine.

Besides, the link provided by Richard does not seem to do much for me. Since I installed Richard's MOD and then some other code on top of it, the line

<tr><td bgColor=<% =strPopUpTableColor %> align=right width="10%" nowrap><b><font face="<% =strDefaultFontFace %>" size="<% =strDefaultFontSize %>">Email Address: </font></b></td> <td bgColor=<% =strPopUpTableColor %><font face="<% =strDefaultFontFace %>" size="<% =strDefaultFontSize %>"> <a href="JavaScript:openWindow('pop_mail.asp?id=<% =rs("MEMBER_ID") %>')"><% =ChkString(rs("M_EMAIL"), "display") %></a> </font></td></tr>



does not appear in the pop_profile file I have.

My point is that, since the e-mail address is not revealed in this Snitz forum source (you can try it yourself) there must be a way to fix the problem. Maybe I have been asking for too much.

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Aaron S.
Average Member

USA
985 Posts

Posted - 27 March 2002 :  20:05:55  Show Profile  Visit Aaron S.'s Homepage
Please follow the link I posted above... it FIXES this problem.

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mark d
Starting Member

Australia
18 Posts

Posted - 27 March 2002 :  20:30:14  Show Profile
Hi El Matador

I was agreeing with you about the Snitz site not showing the addy in the source (as you said "However, this does not happen in this Snitz forum").

But anyway, I did some more research and had a look at Kerrie's site (mentioned in Richard's reply above).

When registering, she gives you the choice to hide email (no messages to be sent), so I assume that the Hide Email mod is being used.

But when viewing the source of the 'send message (to a person that has allowed it) popup', I can't see their addy anywhere.

So does that mean that Kerrie's site has the solution?

Thanks Aaron, but I tried your link and it takes me to the default page. Which forum is it in, and what is the title of the topic?

Thanks
mark d

Edited by - mark d on 27 March 2002 20:34:32
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Nikkol
Forum Moderator

USA
6907 Posts

Posted - 27 March 2002 :  20:37:09  Show Profile
Here's the correct link: http://forum.snitz.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=6759

Nikkol
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mark d
Starting Member

Australia
18 Posts

Posted - 27 March 2002 :  20:52:59  Show Profile
Thanks Nikkol

I see that this takes me to the same post that Richard originally reccommended to me.

When I read (sounds like: red) all the info on that post, I couldn't see it mentioned anywhere that she was using the Hide Email mod as well as the other code.

Thanks again
mark d

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Aaron S.
Average Member

USA
985 Posts

Posted - 27 March 2002 :  22:24:13  Show Profile  Visit Aaron S.'s Homepage
Looks like the same link that I posted...



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mark d
Starting Member

Australia
18 Posts

Posted - 27 March 2002 :  22:44:36  Show Profile
Hi Aaron

Yeh, I did notice that. I just checked the link again on your post and it worked this time, but on the previous three or four attempts it just dumped me onto the default page.

Oh well,... I sometimes forget the Internet isn't perfect! (LOL)

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MosP
Starting Member

43 Posts

Posted - 27 March 2002 :  22:50:45  Show Profile
would this MOD look like this:



cheers

MosP

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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin

USA
16655 Posts

Posted - 27 March 2002 :  22:55:57  Show Profile
quote:

Thanks Nikkol

I see that this takes me to the same post that Richard originally reccommended to me.

When I read (sounds like: red) all the info on that post, I couldn't see it mentioned anywhere that she was using the Hide Email mod as well as the other code.

Thanks again
mark d



The Hide Email MOD has nothing to do with the changes that were proposed in that topic. It was all about removing the e-mail address from the outputted HTML so it could not be harvested by SPAM bots.
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El Matador
Junior Member

192 Posts

Posted - 28 March 2002 :  00:07:30  Show Profile
This is what shows up in the pop_mail "view source". Judge by yourself:

<meta name="copyright" content="This code is Copyright (C) 2000-01 Michael Anderson and Pierre Gorissen">
<Style><!--
a:link {color:darkblue;text-decoration:underline}
a:visited {color:blue;text-decoration:underline}
a:hover {color:red;text-decoration:underline}
--></style>
</head>

<BODY bgColor="white" text="midnightblue" link="darkblue" aLink="red" vLink="red" onLoad="window.focus()">

<table width="95%" height="100%">
<tr>
<td align=center valign=center>
<div align=center><center>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">

<p><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="3">Send an EMAIL Message</font></p>


<form action="pop_mail.asp?mode=DoIt&id=368" method=Post id=Form1 name=Form1>
<input type=hidden name="Page" value="">

<table border="0" width="90%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<tr>
<td bgcolor="black">
<table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1">
<tr>
<td bgColor=navyblue align="right" nowrap><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Send To Name:</FONT></b></td>
<td bgColor=navyblue><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Somebody<input type=hidden name="Name" value="Somebody"></font></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td bgColor=navyblue align="right" nowrap><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Send To Email:</FONT></b></td>
<td bgColor=navyblue><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Somebody<input type=hidden name="Email" value="whatever@hotmail.com"></font></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td bgColor=navyblue align="right" nowrap><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2>Your Name:</font></b></td>
<td bgColor=navyblue><input name=YName type=hidden value="Myself" size=25><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2> Myself</font></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td bgColor=navyblue align="right" nowrap><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2>Your Email:</font></b></td>
<td bgColor=navyblue><input name=YEmail type=hidden value="something@hotmail.com" size=25><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2> something@hotmail.com</font></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td bgColor=navyblue colspan=2><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Message:</FONT></b></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td bgColor=navyblue colspan=2><textarea name="Msg" cols=40 rows=5></textarea></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td bgColor=navyblue colspan=2 align=center><Input type=Submit value="Send" id=Submit1 name=Submit1></TD>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</form>

<p><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"><a href="JavaScript:onClick= window.close()">Close Window</A></font></p>
</font>
</center></div>
</td>
</tr>
</table>




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mark d
Starting Member

Australia
18 Posts

Posted - 28 March 2002 :  00:44:36  Show Profile
Hi Richard

I do understand that. What I was saying is that because that topic didn't mention the Hide Email mod anywhere where it discusses Kerry's site, I assumed that she uses the same registration options that are used on the Snitz site (ie: no option to allow email messages to be sent (which is great for anti-harvesting, but no good for allowing people to have messages sent to them if they wish - which is what your mod does allow?).

So, I decided to check out Kerry's registration options and discovered that it does give you the option to receive messages but doesn't show the address anywhere if members do decide to go that way (including the source code El Matador - I wasn't talking about your site). Therefore, I now think that she must be using your mod as well?

So, in effect, Kerry's registration procedure has the best of both worlds! (giving the choice of blocking messages or allowing them but also hiding the addy no matter what choice the member makes).

Thanks Richard (and others) for your help.
And to El Matador: I think you've missed my point. Regardless of whether your site shows the addy in the code, Kerry's doesn't, so I will be implementing the procedure recommended by Richard, which is obviously the one used on Kerry's site (which as far as I can see hides the addy in the source even if the member does choose to allow messages to be sent... and correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that what you are trying to achieve?).

mark d

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El Matador
Junior Member

192 Posts

Posted - 28 March 2002 :  11:23:45  Show Profile
quote:

And to El Matador: I think you've missed my point. Regardless of whether your site shows the addy in the code, Kerry's doesn't, so I will be implementing the procedure recommended by Richard, which is obviously the one used on Kerry's site (which as far as I can see hides the addy in the source even if the member does choose to allow messages to be sent... and correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that what you are trying to achieve?).

mark d





I finally managed to eliminate the e-mail address from the code after modifying the pop_mail file included in the Richard Kinser's "hide e-mail MOD" to make it look more like the one contained in Kerry's link

http://www.cantonweb.com/kerrycode/pop_mail.txt

Now it works. Mark d, thank you. This is the fix I tried to do for months.

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