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stratacafe
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Canada
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Posted - 27 February 2002 :  22:11:44  Show Profile  Visit stratacafe's Homepage
Still running (fingers crossed).

Will moving to something like MySQL really speed things up that much? MS-SQL is out of my budget (free), so that's a no-go.

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Posted - 28 February 2002 :  05:06:06  Show Profile
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Still running (fingers crossed).

Will moving to something like MySQL really speed things up that much? MS-SQL is out of my budget (free), so that's a no-go.




Keep them crossed . This topic includes some links about MySQL : http://forum.snitz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=23418

A major issue is to move from one database to the other. I never used MySQL, so it will be a good idea to search, if not found ask using the MySQL support forum here.


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stratacafe
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Canada
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Posted - 28 February 2002 :  19:40:00  Show Profile  Visit stratacafe's Homepage
1 last post for the sake of closure.

A whole day, no crashes! Yippee!

There seems to be some serious issue with scalability/stability with Access97 databases. Converting to 2000 has done the trick.

Thanks for your help Bozden, although most of the info I posted seems to have been a red herring.

I will definately look up that info on MySQL. Squeezing some more speed ot of this baby (and the whole site in general) is foremost on my mind right now.

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Posted - 28 February 2002 :  20:10:23  Show Profile
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1 last post for the sake of closure.

A whole day, no crashes! Yippee!

Thanks for your help Bozden, although most of the info I posted seems to have been a red herring.


You're welcome .

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There seems to be some serious issue with scalability/stability with Access97 databases. Converting to 2000 has done the trick.


Well, you may call it like that. Backward compatibility is a bad issue for programmers/computer engineers. It is a Jet driver "issue". Think of how old Access 97 is (3 generations backwards). You have to get rid of it somewhere to make things work better.


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aecio
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Brazil
120 Posts

Posted - 04 March 2002 :  20:16:38  Show Profile  Visit aecio's Homepage
This thread got very interesting!

Now, as for the test I proposed. I installed the internationalized 4.03 version with English as the default and only language. And I put up a parallel forum with the 3.3 version.

Does anyone have an idea to "time" the difference in loading and processing between these? I thought of getting log results in the IIS logs for load time, but I don't know if this is being logged.

Cheers!

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aecio
Junior Member

Brazil
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Posted - 26 April 2002 :  22:50:32  Show Profile  Visit aecio's Homepage
Hi everyone,

If you want to test the speed of the two versions, check these out:

Internationalized version 4.0.03:
http://www.xsaude.com.br/healthyplanet/forum/

English only version 3.3.03:
http://www.xsaude.com.br/healthyplanet/forumen/

It has become clear to me that 3.3.03 is much faster than the internationalized version. I still don't have a sure method of benchmarking these two forums. Any ideas?

Cheers!

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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin

Portugal
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Posted - 27 April 2002 :  06:15:47  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
Funny thing, 4.0 loaded a whole lot faster than 3.3 to me.

You could properly set the timer at the bottom of the page to show the time it takes for the server to generate each page. Right now it seems that you have the part in inc_footer.asp uncommented, but the part in inc_top.asp must be commented (the value being shown now is always the same and it as an absurd one.

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Posted - 27 April 2002 :  10:20:04  Show Profile
The problem with this is, you are making the test in a chaotic environment called "Internet".

To be able to test the following set-up would be needed:

  1. A dedicated server for the test, without unnecessary processes

  2. A dedicated client for the test (Intranet)

  3. No other restriction (so you use max memory, bandwidth etc)

  4. Run something like web stress tool





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aecio
Junior Member

Brazil
120 Posts

Posted - 27 April 2002 :  22:57:34  Show Profile  Visit aecio's Homepage
I agree that I should test on a local setup. I have MS stress tool. I will try to set that up soon.

For now, I uncommented the inc_top timer stuff.

Since for all our forum's users, version 3 was faster, I switched them around. Our oficial version is now 3.

If you want to see them, now:

Internationalized version 4.0.03:
http://www.xsaude.com.br/healthyplanet/forum4/

English only version 3.3.03:
http://www.xsaude.com.br/healthyplanet/forum/



Cheers!

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ruirib
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Portugal
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Posted - 27 April 2002 :  23:02:06  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
I know it's not meaningful, but 4.0 took 1.06 secs to be generated at the server and 3.03 took 1.07...

This confirms my previous impressions at your site...

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Posted - 28 April 2002 :  17:08:59  Show Profile
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Since for all our forum's users, version 3 was faster, I switched them around. Our oficial version is now 3.



Can you try to make all language variables to constansts and try to compare again? I.e. in your LangNNNN.asp files, use a global find-replace to get

Const strLangActive00010 = "...
Const strLangActive00020 = "...
...



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