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e3stone
Average Member
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 Posted - 24 August 2001 : 15:43:55
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Would it be possible to add a new category on this site where people can discuss version 3.1sr4 ? That's the version that I have, but I've found that most of the current discussions are geared towards version 3.3.023423451 or whatever number its on now. I believe that 3.1sr4 is better than the new version and I plan on sticking with it and not upgrading.
I think this would help those of us with the previous version...and we wouldn't have to sift through all the posts regarding verion 3.3.X
Just an idea
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big9erfan
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Posted - 24 August 2001 : 15:54:11
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As much as people like v 3.3.xx I most definately have to agree with e3stone.
A forum specifically dedicated to the mods and such specifically developed for 3.1 would be most helpful. Sure that forum may not get as much traffic as others, but what's 1 more forum? Purdy please? 
Back to the serious side, 3.1 was around for quite a while, and there were countless mods released for it as well, many of which people are trying to put on 3.3.xx but have been unable to do so. Would there be a problem in dividing forums by versions? As long as there is still a demand for said versions I don't think there should be places where those versions are able to be discussed without having to hunt and peck for the topics that are at least geared towards your board.
Ok. I'm done.
In support of a new 3.1 board!
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work mule
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 24 August 2001 : 15:58:49
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I have to agree that I like v3.1sr4 and wouldn't mind sticking with it, but anyone using it must make sure they add in some vital patches!! Other than that it's a good version! I haven't really done much with the new versions so my judgement is reserved at this point, but admittedly, I'm a skeptic at this point.
Actually, I think I'm far off of the Snitz version tree...I'm using Work Mule Forums -1.0. 
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gor
Retired Admin
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Posted - 24 August 2001 : 16:51:36
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My problem with this is a very practical one: time
Yes, the version 3.3 has more problems than I would like
Yes, parts of it are slower than the 3.1 version
No, I'm not going to look at the code of version 3.1 for bugs, fixes, errors etc. anymore.
I think I posted 50+ posts today, I'll help anyone with problems regarding version 3.3, but if I don't limit it to one version I'll go nuts.
For all other development team members the request to please look at version 3.3
The bugs in the bugforum won't go away by themselves, nor can I or Richard (or Mike and Huw when they are back) find and fix them all by ourselves.
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big9erfan
Average Member
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Posted - 24 August 2001 : 17:19:54
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Gor,
I'm not suggesting that you make more bug forums, more development forums, etc all for 3.1 that are supported by you guys, but is something that you guys can just over look and say "well if I have time I'll throw ya a bone, but my priority is 3.3"
This new forum ( if it ever materializes ) can be more community support than staff support. I'm no perfect ASP programmer, but I know can and will help out anyone that has got questions with 3.1
Hell I get e-mails and IMs all day long ( though probably not as much as you, LOL ) asking how to do this, how to fix that, where to copy and paste this code, etc.
Just make the forum and in the description say that it's no long offically supported by the staff though forum members are welcomed to post questions, support, mods, etc.
Purdy please, with whip cream and a cherry on top? 
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work mule
Senior Member
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Posted - 24 August 2001 : 17:56:39
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gor,
I respect the time you spend here helping everyone out. You and Richard both are constantly here! I ask that you possibly reconsider this request. Maybe this isn't such a bad idea. It has the potential to help in sorting out help requests for the new and old versions. I don't think anyone's asking or expecting you to support the old versions. They're just looking for an area reserved for posting items specifically for the old versions.
It would be nice to have a category or forum dedicated for the old versions. Let the owners of older versions post there and help each other out. Maybe that would help clean up the main help and bug forums for the current version. Then you won't have to look at bugs and posts for the old versions. When you come across old versions, you can move their post over.
Something like, we recommend that you upgrade to the current release to receive support, however if you're having problems post here and maybe someone who's using the same version will be able to answer your questions.
...now going to play Devil's advocate...
If this category/forum was created, who's going to provide support for it? If gor, Kinser, HuwR and the others on the Dev Team don't provide it, who will? Will it end up the help request graveyard?
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big9erfan
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Posted - 24 August 2001 : 18:12:37
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I'm on the computer 24/5 ( hee hee, I take weekends off ). I'll be here to help. I know e3stone will kick in, as will numerous other guys out there that like the 3.1 base and are sticking with it.
I may not be a top ASP coder (yet) but I'm working on it. Hell, I've only been fiddling with the language since Jan of this year. I'll help everyone that I can ( hell I do already LOL )
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Posted - 24 August 2001 : 19:10:25
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For all other development team members the request to please look at version 3.3
The bugs in the bugforum won't go away by themselves, nor can I or Richard (or Mike and Huw when they are back) find and fix them all by ourselves.
Hmmm. What if v40 is released? I knew the problem with these MOD's, all major MOD's do print something on the screen, hardcoded in English. How will we organize to upgrade the MOD's to v40 (but NOT to v3.3 only)?
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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin
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Posted - 24 August 2001 : 19:10:31
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| I can't speak for gor, but I wouldn't have a problem with this. Maybe y'all three would like to be Moderators of this forum? But, like gor said, we just don't have the time to support both 3.3 and 3.1 (4.0 is in development as well). |
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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin
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Posted - 24 August 2001 : 19:12:46
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| Bozden, that is one of the main reasons I haven't really upgraded any of the MODS I have done. I'm waiting until after v4 is out. I just don't see upgrading them and then having to upgrade again. |
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work mule
Senior Member
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Posted - 24 August 2001 : 19:47:44
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But, like gor said, we just don't have the time to support both 3.3 and 3.1 (4.0 is in development as well).
I think that's understood by all and we wouldn't expect you too either. So if there's an area for the old versions, then you guys can kick those on over to the "old version" section.
Possibly something to consider down the road is that if v4.0 is such a drastic change then separating the mods might be worthwhile. Maybe you could make a category called "Stubborn Like a Mule" - just being funny - but seriously, set aside a category for Prior Versions. Possibly move over the current MOD forums (since they would all for the most part be incompatible with the 4.x) and create a forum for HELP. Maybe this would help cut down on the confusion inside the main MOD forums once 4.x is released?
I know we're not UBB, but how do they or others handle old versions?
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big9erfan
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Posted - 24 August 2001 : 19:53:37
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Richard,
As I had said, I don't see you guys doing the support for 3.1 anymore. In development terms it's a dinosaur left in the tar pits. Eventually it will be covered over, but certainly not overnight. There are still a lot of us dinosaurs out there .
I wouldn't at all mind moderating a forum ( or collection of them with help from other guys, e3stone, work-mule if he so desires, etc ) for helping people with 3.1
Well, I'm gone for the weekend guys, but I'll try and pop in and see what you all have thought about and said sometime tomorrow.
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Posted - 24 August 2001 : 20:55:46
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Bozden, that is one of the main reasons I haven't really upgraded any of the MODS I have done. I'm waiting until after v4 is out. I just don't see upgrading them and then having to upgrade again.
The structure and tools are ready. I have to work with one MOD'der to resolve any issues and put some pseudo-standarts. Why not you?
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Davio
Development Team Member
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Posted - 25 August 2001 : 01:05:49
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I also have to agree. In the past, majority of forum users just move up to the next version, so we didn't really have to give much support for older versions. But 3.1 SR4 was out for a long while and was pretty much stable and I feel most of the forum users aren't willing to upgrade, because they feel comfortable with SR4. So we have a 50/50 split of users using SR4 and 3.3. Or is that 70/40?
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gor
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e3stone
Average Member
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Posted - 25 August 2001 : 04:46:37
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YES!!  Thank you Gor!!
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