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MaGraham
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USA
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Posted - 26 December 2013 :  12:21:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Can hackers read the info on "images" that are on the Internet?

I mean, don't hackers use programs to scan the Internet for info and those programs don't have the ability to read images?


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Davio
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Jamaica
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Posted - 26 December 2013 :  12:52:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What info on images? You mean a CAPTCHA image?

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MaGraham
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USA
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Posted - 26 December 2013 :  13:30:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Well, I was wondering specifically about documents that have been scanned and saved as an image i.e. jpg, bmp, etc.

But that would include graphics and a CAPTCHA image that have something written on them, too, right?




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Maxime
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France
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Posted - 26 December 2013 :  14:00:12  Show Profile  Visit Maxime's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I do not use captcha on the Snitz forum, so I can not answer you. I utise on my personal website on PHPBB3 forum? It is very good

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bobby131313
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USA
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Posted - 26 December 2013 :  15:02:32  Show Profile  Visit bobby131313's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The answer is yes, the script kiddies have software that will read text in images. That's why CAPTCHAs are usually distorted, its to try and thwart their software. Some of them are so bad they can't even be read by human eyes.

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Edited by - bobby131313 on 26 December 2013 21:42:00
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MaGraham
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USA
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Posted - 26 December 2013 :  17:40:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bobby131313

The answer is yes, the script kiddies have software that will read text in images. That's why CAPTCHAs are usually distorted, its to try and thwart their software. Some of them are so bad they can't even be red by human eyes.


Oh wow! I sure didn't realize this! An elderly friend, who is legally blind, has a reading program for her computer. She says it cannot read any writing on graphics so I just assumed no program could.

Thank you!


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Carefree
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Philippines
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Posted - 26 December 2013 :  19:10:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does she use "Jaws"?
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MaGraham
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USA
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Posted - 27 December 2013 :  01:19:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carefree

Does she use "Jaws"?



Yes, she does. Is there a reason for asking, Carefree?


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Carefree
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Philippines
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Posted - 27 December 2013 :  10:22:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are a lot of versions of Jaws. Jaws 13 and later can read text in images.
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MaGraham
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USA
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Posted - 28 December 2013 :  08:24:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carefree

There are a lot of versions of Jaws. Jaws 13 and later can read text in images.



She just recently did an upgrade so that may be the version she now has. I'll ask but she may not know. That would be wonderful if it can read imprint on images!

She will be 83 tomorrow and she was one of the first people to ever use AOL. And, she stuck with it all these years when her eyesight was good. And now that she's legally blind, it would obviously be so difficult for her to see to learn anything else.

The problem with using AOL is: JAWS isn't supposed to be compatible with AOL at all. However; for years she's had Windows Vista and JAWS worked fine with AOL. But she just now purchased a new computer with what she thinks is Windows 7 (Her computer guy did the purchasing so it, obviously, could be Windows 8).

With the new Windows came the need to upgrade JAWS. And now, neither she nor the computer guy can get it to read ANYTHING on any website using AOL's browser. And sometimes, it won't read some of her AOL email.

I suggested her computer guy download and install an older version of AOL. If that's not an option with the newer version of Windows, I suggested he download Thunderbird for her to try for her AOL email and then let her try learning a new browser.

She has a genius of an IQ but at age 83 and being legally blind, she's afraid she won't be able to learn all of that.

If any of you have any suggestions, I would be thrilled to pass them on to her. She lives several hours away or else I'd try to physically help her. She's such a precious, precious friend!



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Carefree
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Philippines
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Posted - 28 December 2013 :  17:59:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jaws doesn't care which browser you use. It reads icon titles, text, etc.; whatever you point the mouse at. Don't know why there would be a problem with AOL. I installed it for a blind man in Cleveland OH (who also used AOL) about 10 years ago. He had no problem. Of course, that was original XP, not 7/8.
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MaGraham
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USA
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Posted - 29 December 2013 :  07:12:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

It worked fine for this friend when she used Windows XP and Windows Vista.

Her computer guy is still working on it, in his spare time, after upgrading her JAWS so, hopefully, he'll get it all worked out.

But clarify something for me. Are you guys saying JAWS can read what has been written on just regular graphics people create in Paint Shop Pro and Photo Shop? Or, is it just the ones that have the "alt" codes such as the alt="Happy Birthday" coding?


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Carefree
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Philippines
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Posted - 29 December 2013 :  12:44:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jaws 13+ reads any text ordinarily recognizable by humans in graphics.
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MaGraham
Senior Member

USA
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Posted - 30 December 2013 :  06:59:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Great! Thank you, Carefree!

This friend said she has JAWS 15. I believe she said the upgrade cost her $400!

Her computer guy removed AOL 9.7 and installed AOL 9.0. It seemed to help but only in intervals which, obviously, makes no sense whatsoever.

She plans to call the company that makes JAWS today and see if they have someone who can help.



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