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spyderuk
Junior Member

United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 January 2007 :  13:46:43  Show Profile  Visit spyderuk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Who's the worst?

Realising I have a few compulsive quoters on my forum I started searching around here and found many topics about code changes to do various things about the quotes although many topics seemed to be abandoned. I searched for this in the past and I'm sure I stumbled on a topic that had a quick code change to check for member level and only show the icon/link to "reply with quote" to admins and moderators. I cannot seem to find that topic now.

If any of you experienced coders could post that snippit of code here I sure would appreciate it.

Thanks.

EDIT.. Or maybe point out the lines and I could comment them out for a board wide quoting bann for a while. that would work for me If it would work that way.<

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Edited by - spyderuk on 17 January 2007 14:00:03

MarkJH
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1722 Posts

Posted - 17 January 2007 :  14:03:09  Show Profile  Visit MarkJH's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by spyderuk

Who's the worst?

Realising I have a few compulsive quoters on my forum I started searching around here and found many topics about code changes to do various things about the quotes although many topics seemed to be abandoned. I searched for this in the past and I'm sure I stumbled on a topic that had a quick code change to check for member level and only show the icon/link to "reply with quote" to admins and moderators. I cannot seem to find that topic now.

If any of you experienced coders could post that snippit of code here I sure would appreciate it.

Thanks.

EDIT.. Or maybe point out the lines and I could comment them out for a board wide quoting bann for a while. that would work for me If it would work that way.


LOL

Sorry, couldn't resist. That is one of the most annoying things that people do on a forum, that's for sure.<

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MarkJH
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1722 Posts

Posted - 17 January 2007 :  14:13:06  Show Profile  Visit MarkJH's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sounds like it just needs an mlev check around the reply with quote code.

Not tested but how about changing the code in topic.asp from (and it might be a little different in my heavily modded forum):

if ((Cat_Status <> 0 and Forum_Status <> 0 and Topic_Status = 1) or (AdminAllowed = 1 and Topic_Status <= 1)) and ArchiveView = "" then
Response.Write " <a href=""post.asp?" & ArchiveLink & "method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=" & Reply_ReplyID & "&TOPIC_ID=" & Topic_ID & "&FORUM_ID=" & Forum_ID & """>" & getCurrentIcon(strIconReplyTopic,"Reply with Quote","align=""absmiddle"" hspace=""0""") & "</a>" & vbNewLine
end if


to

if ((Cat_Status <> 0 and Forum_Status <> 0 and Topic_Status = 1) or (AdminAllowed = 1 and Topic_Status <= 1)) and ArchiveView = "" and mlev > 2 then
Response.Write " <a href=""post.asp?" & ArchiveLink & "method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=" & Reply_ReplyID & "&TOPIC_ID=" & Topic_ID & "&FORUM_ID=" & Forum_ID & """>" & getCurrentIcon(strIconReplyTopic,"Reply with Quote","align=""absmiddle"" hspace=""0""") & "</a>" & vbNewLine
end if


I think this occurs in two places.<

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Edited by - MarkJH on 17 January 2007 14:14:34
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leatherlips
Senior Member

USA
1838 Posts

Posted - 17 January 2007 :  14:26:16  Show Profile  Visit leatherlips's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I turned off the quote feature in my forums except for MODs and Admin. See here.<

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spyderuk
Junior Member

United Kingdom
211 Posts

Posted - 18 January 2007 :  06:56:36  Show Profile  Visit spyderuk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MarkJH

quote:
Originally posted by spyderuk

Who's the worst?

Realising I have a few compulsive quoters on my forum I started searching around here and found many topics about code changes to do various things about the quotes although many topics seemed to be abandoned. I searched for this in the past and I'm sure I stumbled on a topic that had a quick code change to check for member level and only show the icon/link to "reply with quote" to admins and moderators. I cannot seem to find that topic now.

If any of you experienced coders could post that snippit of code here I sure would appreciate it.

Thanks.

EDIT.. Or maybe point out the lines and I could comment them out for a board wide quoting bann for a while. that would work for me If it would work that way.


LOL

Sorry, couldn't resist. That is one of the most annoying things that people do on a forum, that's for sure.

It doesn't matter where you are or what your doing, there is always 1.

quote:
Originally posted by leatherlips

I turned off the quote feature in my forums except for MODs and Admin. See here.

Cheers Leatherlips, that was the topic I had seen in the past. Could not find it for looking last night. Going to fire up Cute now <

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Edited by - spyderuk on 18 January 2007 06:59:29
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dayve
Forum Moderator

USA
5820 Posts

Posted - 18 January 2007 :  14:38:56  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I rely heavily on quoting, it makes it easy to identify specific things that people say, especially if you're commenting on something someone said pages earlier. I'm not sure eactly what constitutes quote abuse??<

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pdrg
Support Moderator

United Kingdom
2897 Posts

Posted - 18 January 2007 :  14:47:35  Show Profile  Send pdrg a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Personally I find quoting can be very habdy in an unthreaded forum like Snitz, it means you can identify the parts of the topic you are referring to, and can be handy for aggregation. However, if the problem is quotes containing quotes containing quotes, I agree reading it can get ugly. In this case I'd suggest either a quick readability class for your users ('never quote more than one level deep, you idiots')...

Or you could parse out the inner quote when a new one is posted. I'm sure one of our regex bunnies could work out a tech solution to that in something less than two minutes (although stitching it reliably into the code will be longer, maybe)...

Or, the 'reply with quote' functionality could automatically dump any previous quotes when pressed, so only leaving the edit pane with the actual body text the previous message.

Not bad, three solutions in three minutes ;-)<
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dayve
Forum Moderator

USA
5820 Posts

Posted - 18 January 2007 :  23:33:43  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I never liked the way quotes were handled in Snitz, I prefer the entire quote to be in a bordered object which is what I do on my forum and much easier on the eyes, especially with nested quotes.<

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MarkJH
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1722 Posts

Posted - 19 January 2007 :  02:10:39  Show Profile  Visit MarkJH's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've been using this Quote MOD for a while now. Looks far better than the standard quote code.<

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spyderuk
Junior Member

United Kingdom
211 Posts

Posted - 20 January 2007 :  19:01:38  Show Profile  Visit spyderuk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dayve

I'm not sure eactly what constitutes quote abuse??

Quite simply IMHO Quote Abuse is when you have a bunch of over excited, younger members who think about nothing but post count. Since sorting the code I have several PM's from these guys saying "Why can't I post" Obviously oblivious to the reply to topic link at the end of the topic. 1 week should sort them as they now know it can be removed.

The most annoying is when they constantly quote the most recent post? And the next person quotes that post too.

Personally I think the quote is great and a must if used sensibly.

quote:
Originally posted by pdrg

However, if the problem is quotes containing quotes containing quotes, I agree reading it can get ugly.

That is when you can read the whole topic in the last post

EDIT.. MarkJH I just took a look at that quote mod. Looks quite nice and only a few minor code changes. I may have to try that out. Thanks.<

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Edited by - spyderuk on 20 January 2007 19:25:46
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